Six Iranians arrested for dancing to promote islam

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Max E., May 21, 2014.

  1. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    I'm afraid we'll have to disagree again as regards the physical world, depending on how you define "physical". But we needn't go into it.
     
    #311     Jul 28, 2014
  2. stu

    stu

    "Okay"
     
    #312     Jul 28, 2014
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    "The only extremely minor quibble I would make is that the evolutionary process of social organization is natural only for those who seek that. Those who don't can seek some other route."

    Some may choose to follow an "asocial" path, but they won't make that choice until after they've been fully reared and socialized.
     
    #313     Jul 28, 2014
  4. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    By "some other route" I didn't mean that they were sociopathic, just that until fairly recently -- say the last hundred years -- there were a great many people in this country, primarily in the West, who were entirely self-sufficient. Except for trading, they had no need for a community, even if they had time for it.
     
    #314     Jul 28, 2014
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    I knew that, which is why I said "asocial" instead of "anti-". : )

    Anyway, another small quibble: no one is or has ever been self-sufficient. For humans, self-reliance (to a degree determined by the gifts the individual has received) is possible.
     
    #315     Jul 28, 2014
  6. stu

    stu

    ...and those evolutionary gifts just keep on givin'
     
    #316     Jul 28, 2014
  7. stu

    stu

    Should it have been individual reliance without any need for community that was overwhelmingly beneficial to survival, then people wouldn't be living in communities. Everyone would be on their own. Most aren't.

    Thing is both work to a degree, but to enhance survival, social /communal constructs overall work far better and why the capacity and inclination for it evolved .
     
    #317     Jul 28, 2014
  8. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    I didn't say it was "overwhelmingly beneficial to survival". Rather there was no other choice. If your nearest neighbor is miles away, or if you're not homesteading at all, a community just isn't part of your reality.

    Some people have reasons for living in communities, such as serfs and lords, and some have reasons for avoiding them. Both systems work depending on the individual's needs and wants and talents and skills.
     
    #318     Jul 28, 2014
  9. fhl

    fhl

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    #319     Jul 28, 2014
  10. stu

    stu

    That sounds.... and looks ....more like religion than anything else.
     
    #320     Jul 29, 2014