Six Iranians arrested for dancing to promote islam

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Max E., May 21, 2014.

  1. ROFL! The words "God" and "Creator" were BOTH in the draft you posted. Not that it matters anyway because it was a DRAFT, you STUpid troll. <== Are you also going to pretend the word "troll" isn't in this sentence because it's preceded by your name? :p

    Only a mentally ill, rabid atheist moron like you would try to claim the Declaration of Independence is devoid of religious references given the following FOUR specific references to God in the FINAL, SIGNED version. :D

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...

    ...We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence , we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
     
    #291     Jul 9, 2014
  2. stu

    stu

    Yeah sure, missing words out of stuff doesn't change meaning context or concepts.:p
     
    #292     Jul 11, 2014
  3. When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...

    ...We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence , we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

    But keep digging STUpid troll :p

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    #293     Jul 11, 2014
  4. That's easy enough for you to say, but where is the explanation, or the science behind morality?

    I'm curious to know ?
     
    #294     Jul 12, 2014
  5. stu

    stu

    It's more like being contradictory than curious when you start out by assuming the natural world is fundamentally supernatural.
     
    #295     Jul 17, 2014
  6. jem

    jem

    the troll playbook page 11..
    .
    when a troll is caught using troll playbook page 3.... create a new lie about the state of science to cover for your previous lie... "Come on now! Evolutionary biology explains morality. That's science."

    wait a few days and post an evasive misleading reply. It may slip by and cover your troll tracks.

     
    #296     Jul 17, 2014
  7. stu

    stu

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    #297     Jul 19, 2014
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Jem is not arguing that our world is supernatural, I'm quite sure he considers it material when he strikes his thumb with a hammer. Jem is arguing that there is a multiverse, and that morality exists in at least one of those other universes, an idealistic one, in contact with ours.
    : )
     
    #298     Jul 19, 2014
  9. I was foolish to think that someone might actually provide something that would resemble an attempt to answer my question.

    Seemingly most, if not all Atheists refuse to acknowledge what should be a scientific question.

    Instead they say "Nature determines what is Right and Wrong" like it's a matter of fact.

    Maybe some science brainiac on TV will eventually cough up an explanation for them.

    Maybe then they'll be able to explain Why they feel compelled to be a good person, or Why they don't give a shit, and just do whatever floats their boats.
     
    #299     Jul 21, 2014
  10. stu

    stu

    It is a scientific question and there is a scientific answer and a scientific explanation. You obviously don't like that answer so what are you doing but ignoring the answer and pretending one wasn't given.

    Who has said "Nature determines what is Right and Wrong" except you? No one has.

    As a theist you're suggesting to define what is right and wrong is not something which can occur through any natural process, naturally, but rather something which can only come about supernaturally? Really!?
    You can't see the glaring contradiction?

    What problem do you have with moral values being based on human reasoning as a natural process?
     
    #300     Jul 22, 2014