Have you not realized that it's pointless arguing with those who keep on ignoring widely agreed issues? That big bang is a theory is a widely accepted fact. That matter cannot by any current scientific understanding originate from nothing and much less collide without gravity and velocity is also uncontested by anyone in the scientific community. It's completely useless to waste time debating with those who deny that. Look how it goes, when some don't like what is being said one is accused as being antisemitic. What a joke and how uncorrelated. It should be perfectly apparent by now that some in this thread only like to stir up discontent without any meaningful point they are willing to listen to, much less the ability on their end to make a coherent point.
Ha, if anyone in this thread made coherent points then it was him. He clearly stated that the Big Bang theory is as much a theory, that requires a huge leap of faith and the denial of current accepted scientific findings in that matter cannot come into the existence from nothing and collide without gravity and velocity. You and your friends completely ignore that point. It's hard to argue with someone who can't even hold together a dialog. I ignore the rest of your diatribe because its more entertaining than worthy of a response.
NCSE, you mean that hyper aggressive organization that actually consists of numerous Christians and those of other religious faiths and which by self admission states "Listen to the testimony of Dr. Francisco J. Ayala (University of California, Irvine), a supporter of the NCSE, whose name is listed on their letterhead: A hypothesis is empirical or scientific only if it can be tested by experience. . . . A hypothesis or theory which cannot be, at least in principle, falsified by empirical observations and experiments does not belong to the realm of science (1974, 700; emphasis added). Evolution, therefore, is not science! Many skeptics have conceded that the ideology of “evolution” is very much a faith matter. Dr. Robert Jastrow, professor of astronomy and geology at Columbia University (an agnostic), in discussing the evolutionary view of the spontaneous origin of life on earth has said this: The [evolutionary view of life’s origin] is also an act of faith. The act of faith consists in assuming that the scientific view of the origin of life is correct, without having concrete evidence to support that belief (1977, 52; emphasis added). Dr. Louis More of Princeton wrote: “The more one studies paleontology, the more certain one becomes that evolution is based upon faith alone” (1925, 160; emphasis added)."
The only one full of hate here is you. Just listen to yourself. Theatrical and highly entertaining yet utterly unrelated to the issue. 2 points for ink usage though.
Yes you have made the point, as well as userque, and then each go on attempting to poke holes in Science, only, because it leaves doubt. The more years I live the more I learn how much I don't know and how uncertain everything is. I am stuck in the middle between the believers and non-believers in the religious realm. Just the way I like it.
No, that's not what I did; nor why I did what I did do. I continued in response to @Sig 's continuing, not because it leaves doubt. @Sig is the only one here trying to change minds. Like I said earlier, what you and he eat, don't make me sh.t. And I did not poke holes in Science. I poked holes in a theory. "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
If expressing wonder at a lack of intellect displayed in a post is being "triggered" to you, then sure, I get triggered occasionally by the absolute idiocy of what is sometimes posted. Since that has nothing to do with my beliefs, except perhaps eroding my confidence in a basic level of critical thinking ability among humankind, I'm not sure what your point is. The last time I was "triggered" about my beliefs I believed as you do, that's why I know longer believe it! Your link conspicuously fails to answer the elemental question though. Do you or do you not believe that the bible is the absolute, infallible truth? It's a yes or no question. Can't be too hard to just answer, can it? The fact that you won't embrace your religion is fine, ironic given that you're the one who just quoted Revelation 3:16, but then that religion is pretty good at rank hypocrisy in my experience. You should know that this isn't the first time I've experienced this refusal to answer this exact answer from someone of your viewpoint. It's actually probably the 4th or 5th. The first three were among the things that caused me to affirmatively leave the faith, and every few years I check in to see if maybe I just had bad luck talking to the wrong people and ask again to see if I can get a rational answer. So far, I just get the refusal to answer the question just like you've demonstrated here, along with an attempt to paint me as a bad person for asking...as you've done quite conspicuously here. I still have a tiny bit of an open mind, but you personally are actively driving me and who knows how many of those like the 16 year old version me away. How does that make you feel, great about accomplishing your mission? I'm sure your christ will be proud of you, where was it again he said your mission was to alienate everyone from the religion? Again, maybe focus on what that Jesus fellow said. Many bibles actually conveniently put it in red for you. Then maybe you'd actually attract people to your religion instead of driving them away. And you might be proud enough to straight up embrace what you believe.
Readers can read the conversation themselves to determine whether I've answered your question ... multiple times: https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/six-biblical-truths-about-money.331077/page-5#post-4836162 LOL...what a troll