since we know that all trading courses are bullshit, what would you actually look for in one?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by 1a2b3cppp, Sep 5, 2020.

  1. ctheo1

    ctheo1

    In my experience, the vast majority of "courses" on trading are actually "courses" on reading the market or some market "reading" methodology / indicator. Unfortunately, trading is only about 10-20% about methodology (reading the market). In general I'm inclined to say:

    1. if you don't have an edge, don't trade
    2. if you have an edge but don't have risk management, don't trade
    3. if you have an edge and risk management but don't have a process, don't trade
    4. if you have an edge, risk management and a process but lack the mental fortitude, don't trade

    1s&2s lose money, some get wiped out. 3s hover around breakeven. 4s consistenly make money, some more than others.

    Surving one's learning curve, especially emotionally, should be one's first goal.
     
    #61     Sep 8, 2020
    Lonnie34, yc47ib, tommcginnis and 2 others like this.
  2. speedo

    speedo

    OP, given the premise of your post, any answer would be a non-sequitur now wouldn't it?
     
    #62     Sep 8, 2020
    ctheo1 likes this.
  3. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    The main negatives about courses I've seen:

    • Many educators seem to not even trade for real. Why the heck would you buy training from strangers online unless they show recent PnL proof of recent real trading they've done? Seriously wtf
    • Video testimonials from paid genuine customers are helpful.
    • Avoid anyone who makes "consistently profitable" bs claims
    • Find a few trustworthy educators to learn from, there's a few decent knowledgeable people worth studying
    Realize that this is tough as fk and what you're looking for is help with recognizing great entry setups along with tight stops and correct profit-taking exits.
     
    #63     Sep 8, 2020
  4. deaddog

    deaddog

    You teach a method. In order to get your money back you would have to prove the method didn't work.

    How many passive and nonchalant clients will take the time and effort to document their trades, showing that they followed the method as taught and still lost money.
     
    #64     Sep 8, 2020
    smallfil and bone like this.
  5. stepan7

    stepan7

    "One can transfer knowledge, but no one can transfer experience." - That's why trading is unteachable.
    However, anyone can teach him(her)self how to trade and it's the key in this business.
     
    #65     Sep 8, 2020
  6. danielc1

    danielc1

    It is not that simple. Most people that want to learn 'how to trade' do not know the complete road to a consistent profitable system. There are many aspects you need to address. Learning on your own is almost a sure way to losses. You do not know what you do not know. The obvious in trading like entry, exits, money management or systems that are rule based is not the answer in becoming a successful trader. You need to adapt your thinking, who you are and what you want to achieve in trading. There are exceptions, natural born traders that figure it out on their own. But most traders are influenced by one or more other successful traders. Having someone that know the road ahead is at least a time saving benefit and at most an example how a decent trading plan looks like, with consideration of the person behind it that makes it work. If you think you can learn how to trade with youtube and free information on internet, how do you know if the information you are getting is right, if you are not a profitable trader yourself? I find many information sellers or pretenders giving information that seems plausible for the unknown but almost all the information available is about some kind of system you could use on a chart or with a computer and I'm telling you that that is the last thing you need to become a successful trader. It is like giving a kid a basketball in the hope he will go pro. It ain't going to happen.
     
    #66     Sep 8, 2020
    tommcginnis and ctheo1 like this.
  7. stepan7

    stepan7

    This thread is about the "teaching trading gurus". I know one, folks followed him like crazy even fight with each other, only to find out late that "guru" don't even have a trading account.

    What are you saying make sense. This is where education and IQ came in place.
    And same time nowadays person don't need to spend a single cent to gain knowledge about all you described above.
     
    #67     Sep 8, 2020
    themickey likes this.
  8. themickey

    themickey

    Lmao, that was funny :)
     
    #68     Sep 8, 2020
  9. stepan7

    stepan7

    You know him too :)
     
    #69     Sep 8, 2020
  10. bone

    bone

    I personally don’t teach people how to trade - I take people with some level of trading competence (whether it be retail, commercial, or prop experience) and I teach them a specialty, which is spread trading.

    Having said that, I think it deserves to be said that the right kind of mentor could save a newbie years of time and more than a little money.

    But the real problem is well known - the vast majority of educators are not well intentioned and not experts in trading.
     
    #70     Sep 8, 2020
    KCalhoun and themickey like this.