Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by ctrader, May 24, 2002.

  1. ctrader


    Previously I have mentioned that I am papertrading the dow e-mini with some success, but as you all know paper trading basically doesn't tell you much.

    Anyone have experience with For $50 I can have a month of simulated trading, they say that they are identical to having a real brokerage.

    I can pick my starting capital and per trade fees.

    This seems like a low risk way to prove to myself (and my wife) that I can cut it.

  2. The hard part of simulated trading is how do you account for the orders in line before you? The order matching engines work first in first out. With simulated trading, how do they know how many orders to put in front of you? Therefore you will probably be filled faster in simulated trading than you would be real time.

  3. ctrader


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  4. Yannis



    that was quite a statement - not that I have data to disagree, but I found its "flow" interesting - is this out of your experience or do you work for them? :)
  5. tntneo

    tntneo Moderator

    obviously some free advertising.
    take it as such, with a big grain of salt.
  6. ctrader


    sorry I copied that bit from their website,

    Just wanted to know what you guys thought of it, if you feel it is a waste of time/money, I won't bother, and will just go live.
  7. xstek


    CT, Hello. You sound kind of new to trading so here is an observation. Simulators will never be able to duplicate the "feel" of real trading. It may help you to learn a trading system, I.E. technical, momentum, L 2 reading, basic execution skills. But the hardest part is emotional. For example if you are Long in a stock and it reverses, how do you duplicate the feeling of maybe, not being able to get out of the position, and then suffering a $400... loss. How do you get back in to the next trade after this? Or an even better question is, does a trader have the ability to reverse position, and follow the new direction of the stock? So simulators can help, but the real thing is soooooo different. Everything that you have hopefully read about;

    1 Having more than the minimum $25,000 for pdt account
    2 Money to live off of 6 months to 1 1/2 years
    3 The Market ain't what it was in "99
    4 Etc,Etc,Etc. and more, are the absolute truth when it
    comes to trading today.
    (Unless you have a world famous older Brother to teach you) :D

    Due diligence
  8. You would go live just because "us guys" told you something might be a waste? Hard to believe. Don't rely on what others who you know nothing about tell you when it comes to risking your own capital.

    I still think it was a veiled attempt at SPAM myself. :D
  9. xstek


    CT, If it's spam you just stuck your hand in the Piranha tank :D

  10. ctrader


    Refer to my posts in the following thread:

    I have studied dow for two years. I have a system that appears to work on paper. Another poster told me paper trading wasn't worth it and I should wipe my ass with paper.

    I am not yet confident to go live (shit this is real money you know). Went looking for simulators. Found one... posted a question if simulators are better then paper trading, or do I truly need to go live to gain the confidence I need to trade.
    #10     May 24, 2002