Simple Profitable Method

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by trader28, Sep 6, 2006.

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  1. Ahhh the George Costanza method :)
     
    #1931     Jan 18, 2007
  2. Beeflover,

    First of all don't quit cause you need to learn how to trade
    for your retirement. That's why I am here and it takes as long as it takes.

    So...back to the drawing board. More money, more time,
    more studying, more learning...such is life...

    Enclosed is a chart of today's (ym) market. I put the
    vertical lines in as well as I could with my new software
    E-Signal. (Cause Omnitrader didn't workout...).

    These are just the long trades. There are some short trades
    also. Keep in mind that I didn't trade today cause I'm fine tuning
    my system with the help of everyone here. (Thankyou!!!)

    The trades are when the Macd goes through the zero line and
    the stoch is moving up through the 50% line and T28-SMA3
    shift +2 all align up...jump on it.

    Enjoy the process and tell yourself that you learned something
    new today...Hang tough Trader28 will get us straightened out.

    snarlyjack
     
    #1932     Jan 18, 2007
  3. I took the time to work out Jack's signals for myself on my charts (QuoteTracker).

    Here are the results from Jan 16.
    Assumptions:
    Entries taken when candle closes in order to assure a 50% cross of Stoch 5,2,3
    P/L
    8:40 L1 623 0
    9:00 S2 624 1
    9:30 L3 611 13
    9:40 S4 604 -7
    10:05 L5 606 -2
    11:05 S6 612 6
    11:30 L7 615 -3
    11:45 S8 616 1
    12:35 L9 605 11
    12:45 S10 601 -4
    13:00 L11 606 -5
    14:00 S12 619 13
    14:30 L13 624 -5
    14:15 C13 630 6
    Total 25

    Utilizing this one criteria for entries, this day would have been a loser when you include slippage and commissions.

    That doesn't mean it wouldn't kill on another day.
     
    #1933     Jan 18, 2007
  4. Mo06

    Mo06

    Beeflover, sorry to hear that you are experiencing a drawdown. Look upon your experiences as further education.

    Couple of observations here:

    1. There was a question about avoiding price spikes. The trader has to understand that a price spike represents large numbers of market participants experiencing pain, they are long or short, and the market is moving rapidly against them. The pros know where the stops are likely to be, and they will go for them like fishermen search for the best fishing grounds.

    Many are forced to get out at these points, and the market can then reverse without them.

    As a trader, one wants to be takng profit at these times, ie on the other side of these losing trades.

    One quote I really like:

    "Enter the market in quiet times, exit at wild times".

    2. People have to realise that very short term trading strategies (like some variants described here) are not for everyone. Slippage & commissions will be high as a proportion of profits (or losses) using such strategies. The trader has to feel comfortable with the trading style chosen.

    For me, 3-4 trades per day is quite a lot, for others it's 2-3 per week.
     
    #1934     Jan 18, 2007
  5. Mo06

    Mo06

    One more thing, many traders employ a daily loss limit, in points,$ or whatever.

    If you use such a limit, you know in advance that you cannot lose more than this amount (+ poss slippage) for the day. Something worth considering. Apply it to your trade history and see how it affects the P&L.
     
    #1935     Jan 18, 2007
  6. Jack Hershey is correct,

    What a trader needs to do is: draw your trades out and look at
    them. Then determine what your buy points are and what your
    sell points are.

    In yesterday's (ym) action, it looks to me that their were
    9 trades.

    1). Buy when the macd crosses the zero line.
    2). Sell when the Stoch rollover and crosses over.

    I didn't count the points but by visually looking at it a trader
    would have made money.

    So in my mind the buy is the Macd cross of the zero line.
    The sell is the Stoch rollover.

    Now we have a buy and sell position.

    See enclosed chart.

    snarlyjack
     
    #1936     Jan 18, 2007
  7. sweetdeez

    sweetdeez

    thansk for all your guys work--this looks solid--i just gotta get some screen time in here to get used to these new indicators.

    here are my first 3 trades

    9:30 sell at 1440.25 sold at 1439.50 +0.75 got spooked and exited too early?
    9:45 buy at 1439.50 stopped out at -1.00 entered too soon--not near zero
    9:55 buy at 1440.50 stopped out at -1.00 entered too soon again?
     
    #1937     Jan 18, 2007
  8. sweetdeez

    sweetdeez

    how do these indicators work in a news situation.

    for example bernanke jsut started speaking but things are already down signif.--obv im not getting a zero line cross anytime soon but if the bottom is really gonna fall out what is my signal to get on board with the short?
     
    #1938     Jan 18, 2007
  9. Sweetdeez,

    My first trade of the day was at 8:00 Mountain Time.

    Trading the (YM) went short at 12,645 on the macd cross.
    Just liquidated at 8:06, at 12,625 when the Stoch crossed.
    20 Points x $5.00 a point = +$100.00

    Perfect so far...Glad we could help you with our analysis.
    We have only been perfecting it for 6 months now.
    Traders from all over the "world" have given us their ideas and input!!! Pretty cool huh...

    snarlyjack
     
    #1939     Jan 18, 2007
  10. Enclosed is a picture of the 1st trade of the day.

    12,645 (short) 12,625 (liquidate) 20 points, = $100.00

    Sweetdeez,

    If the bottom starts to fall out...

    Wait for a pull back over the SMA3 +2 horizontial shift,
    then when it starts dropping through the M.A. place your
    short.

    snarlyjack
     
    #1940     Jan 18, 2007
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