Polio has a R0 infection rate of 5 to 7. COVID-19 has a R0 infection rate of 1.6 to 3. (according to most estimates). Did everyone get polio in the decade before the 1956 vaccine. It was a wide public health issue across the U.S. No, they did not because town/cities/counties had lock-downs and other mitigation measures in place to stem polio outbreaks. No different today - a proper public health response can stop "everyone from getting infected" until a COVID-19 vaccine is available. Having a proper COVID-19 public health response is becoming even more critical as it is becoming clear that 40% of those infected don't develop antibodies and those who do develop a natural antibody immunity will likely only be immune for a small number of weeks.
Yeah, the world is a bit more interconnected now than it was in 1956. Thanks for playing. We should probably look at the Spanish Flu behavior as a comparison, since it was before widespread Commercial Air Travel. That's a great data point.
Yet in the modern era New Zealand, Japan, and South Korea have been able to effectively eliminate COVID-19 due to proper lock-downs and public health measures. In these countries, schools are open, public events are being held, all businesses are open.... and things are pretty much back to normal -- except for incoming travel restrictions. Explain to us why the U.S. failed to emulate their successful examples.
Dude, you're like Futurecurrents with your parroting the same thing over and over and over until people vomit. I don't care about New Zealand and Japan. Shove it where the sun don't shine already. All I'm saying is you can't compare Polio and 1956 to now. That's it.
Are you claiming that no lessons whatsoever in public health policy can be learned from the the 1918 flu and 1940s/1950s polio epidemic?
I am sorry you dont care about countries who have stopped the spread effectively with a populaiton that cooperated and took measures to slow it down because, as you like to say "It does not fit your narrative" You get defensive that people are asking you all to lock down in your basement and never leave for months. I did not do that and Corona in my area and state has been rather mild compared to others. Democrats are not trying to take your freedoms and make you stay in your bathroom forever without ever leaving. But when people in FL and TX protest against wearing a mask in stores or other business and gather in groups of 50 - 100 in bars and restaurants or on the beach and basically say COVID is bullshit while cases continue to grow, then something should be done. All you people here is total lockdown rather than hear social distancing, masks, avoiding indoor events for the time being....
you can't show evidence to cultists. It's like Russian meddling all over again....it's all fake news to the brainwashed.
I don't care about those countries for the purposes of the discussion. Because I am not arguing that their procedures don't work. I'm not arguing anything against them at all. But gwb likes to redirect the conversation when his point is blown out of the water as an attempt to turn the attention away from the fact that he made a stupid comparison or statement. For example, when he said deaths in the US and Brazil were on the rise, I showed the data that clearly displayed it was not. What did he do? Immediately brought up New Zealand and Japan and questioned me about them as if I made any comment about them. I made none. Just like this time, where ALL I SAID was that you can't compare 1956 to now. That's it. Carry on with your telling me of all I am doing wrong, though. No matter how much I agree with you guys on stuff, it is apparently not enough. It must be 100% or I am in the CULT! No disagreement or dissension is allowed! I should report to my closest re-education camp immediately for processing.
All governments can do is suggest social distancing, masks etc. They cannot force you to comply. The American People will follow suggestions or they won't. It's their right to do either.