Shroud Of Turin Determined From Time Of Jesus

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by pspr, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. pspr

    pspr

    There is a free app for the iPhone that provides a lot of info and a detailed view of the Shroud. Shroud 2.0.
     
    #61     Mar 30, 2013
  2. This is the issue that I mentioned.

    Why would you automatically assume time has any meaning other than in this dimensional universe?

    Because the 5 senses we have is the starting place of our experience - and that makes our reference point relative.

    Einstein showed that even in this universe, Time is relative...

    So what would time be outside the experience of our senses - anything?


    Easter is here. :D

    In regards to the passage I cited previously, there is a question I asked myself long ago in college:
    Why does Jesus refer to himself as "The Son of Man"? Immediately following, Peter identifies him as "The Son of the Living God."

    Jesus does not correct Peter, but affirms him. Why?

    There are many answers to seek - but usually you first seek out what questions to ponder.

    :D
     
    #62     Mar 30, 2013
  3. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    I did.

    God doesn't believe in atheists.

    The Son of Man walked the Earth healing people, and performed NUMEROUS miracles with the expectation that HIS children He created believe. What did your muslim "god" do?
     
    #63     Mar 30, 2013
  4. pspr

    pspr

    I don't think the concept of time is the answer to the questions I raised earlier. This would frame it in the light of a trick answer from God. I don't believe he goes outside our understanding to provide such answers.

    With regards to Jesus acknowledging to be the Son of Man. He is obviously correct that he is both, the son of man and the son of God. There is no mystery there.
     
    #64     Mar 30, 2013
  5. Perhaps.

    But "our understanding " is itself a relative term, as understanding is different across time as it is across individuals.

    But we seek out our own questions and our own answers. As it has always been.

    My only issue is when someone tells me "stop looking", because he believes he has found his answer, and that answer must also be yours.

    :D
     
    #65     Mar 30, 2013
  6. pspr

    pspr

    I don't recall anyone saying that here but the atheists. They wan't you to be a believer in NOTHING. :D
     
    #66     Mar 30, 2013
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    Actually there are not. This is a problem. The Romans are known to have kept meticulous records of crucifixions, yet there is no known Roman record of Jesus' crucifixion.
     
    #67     Mar 30, 2013
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    OK...show me all the records for everyone that was crucified in 71AD when 6,000 of Spartacus' men were crucified along the Appian Way from Capua to Rome.

    Bottom line... the crucifixion records of Rome were not very complete.
     
    #68     Mar 30, 2013
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    Unfortunately, there are no known reliable dating methods using infrared and Raman spectroscopy. The Carbon-14 dating method, on the other hand, has been shown to be reliable, and the result was reproduced by the several labs that dated the linen of the Shroud. The Shroud is too new to have been the burial Shroud of the Jesus of the Christian faith.

    The fact that there is still uncertainty as to how the image was created does not negate the carbon-14 dating. So far as anyone knows at this point, it could be a burial Shroud. Nevertheless, the proportions of the image are not correct for human anatomy, which makes it doubtful that it is an actual burial shroud.. In any case it is not the burial Shroud of Jesus of the Christian faith. That much is certain.
     
    #69     Mar 30, 2013
  10. Well if true ,I'm fucked.:eek:
     
    #70     Mar 31, 2013