Should Trump Pardon Obama?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tom B, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. Max E.

    Max E.

    Mark Levin on Obama Wiretap Accusations:‘The Evidence is Overwhelming’

     
    #11     Mar 5, 2017
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  2. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    #12     Mar 5, 2017
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Absolutely great .

    Trump has been in office less than 2 months and he's in a bigger mess than Obama was in 8 years.
     
    #13     Mar 5, 2017
  4. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    Obama seems to have broken the law. There will certainly be interminable investigations on it.

    What law is Trump suspected of breaking? None. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

    If you folks want to play Scorched Earth you had better get into your asbestos onesie because the heat just got turned up.
     
    #14     Mar 5, 2017
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  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    There have been numerous GOP Obama investigations the last 8 years ,how many convictions?None. Zip. Zero. Zilch.No cabinet member resignations or recusals due to scandal either.
     
    #15     Mar 5, 2017
  6. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    Well the Dems sure broke the law now and will have, as private citizens, to pay for their own defense teams. Maybe they can ask George Soros for a loan or maybe they can start a legal defense fund on GoFundMe.

    Either way, your team overplayed its hand to an epic degree and some of them are going to jail.
     
    #16     Mar 5, 2017
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark



     
    #17     Mar 5, 2017
  8. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    Here are the problematic aspects of the Obama surveillance on Trump’s team. First, it is not apparent FISA could ever be invoked. Second, it is possible Obama’s team may have perjured themselves before the FISA court by withholding material information essential to the FISA court’s willingness to permit the government surveillance. Third, it could be that Obama’s team illegally disseminated and disclosed FISA information in direct violation of the statute precisely prohibiting such dissemination and disclosure. FISA prohibits, under criminal penalty, Obama’s team from doing any of the three.

    At the outset, the NSA should have never been involved in a domestic US election. Investigating the election, or any hacking of the DNC or the phishing of Podesta’s emails, would not be a FISA matter. It does not fit the definition of war sabotage or a “grave” “hostile” war-like attack on the United States, as constrictively covered by FISA. It is your run-of-the-mill hacking case covered by existing United States laws that require use of the regular departments of the FBI, Department of Justice, and Constitutionally Senate-appointed federal district court judges, and their appointed magistrates, not secretive, deferential FISA courts.

    It is clear abuse of power and highly illegal.

     
    #18     Mar 5, 2017
  9. achilles28

    achilles28

    Don't worry, if he's brought down with bullshit, guns will be on ur doorstep ;)
     
    #19     Mar 5, 2017
  10. achilles28

    achilles28

    If this turns out to be true, that Obama ordered the FISA wiretaps on Trump which yeilded no evidence of criminal activity, he's done.

    Clearly a political smear campaign to bring down a political opponent in a representative democracy.

    That's it for that cotton picker.

    And I rarely use that term.

    They want a war, they can have one.,
     
    #20     Mar 5, 2017
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