Should traders have friends traders?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Fight Club, Apr 14, 2004.

  1. That's one of the reasons why you are an subscriber to this forum, right ? Or at least one of the benefits where you actually find something in common, hopefully. :)
     
    #11     Apr 15, 2004
  2. Totaly Wrong. The larger this forum geting, and more
    newbies around, less the experianced traders are
    sharing their knowledge and techniques.

    So many useless threads everyday with repeated
    questions making it hard to search for new things.

    I have learned much more about usefull strategies
    outside this forum
     
    #12     Apr 15, 2004
  3. abogdan

    abogdan

    In some artistic endeavors, collaboration is a big part of success. When you trade you should retain your own individuality yet get supported by a larger whole, trading community. I do not advise collaboration between traders. Although ‘trading buddies’ may be enjoyable, they are destructive to the development of personal trading styles. This development will be compromised, if you listen to or are swayed by friendly critiques, others trading patterns or trading tricks inconsistent with your personal approach to trading.

    Think of yourself as a lone wolf! Minimal influences and minimal interruptions are keys to success. The ability to avoid distractions requires a great deal of concentration and stamina on the part of the trader.

    Without this focus, you will not be a successful trader!
     
    #13     Apr 15, 2004
  4. pdcomm

    pdcomm

    What is stronger ? the lone wolf or the pac ?

    Be an individual , but also claim your position in the pac .
    Make use of the things you were born with . That includes logic .

    The use and enjoyment of like minded companionship doesn't limit us to only the pac .
     
    #14     Apr 15, 2004
  5. I think you mean that there are a lot of things to waste one's time on here - and you need to sift through continously growing heaps of uninteresting chatter to find something worthwhile to read.

    However, I do think you find that you have more contact with people who share some common ground about trading here - than any other social forum you adhere to. That is unless you have a lot of real world friends in the financial sector

    Personally, I find that when I quitted the whole entrepeneur scene, my need for and frequency of those contacts dropped significantly. That was a relief though, because of all the stress when "being at work 24/7" - at restaurants or anywhere - discussing business strategies.

    When it comes to trading - especially future indexes - there is no better place for me. After a 6 pts profit on the ES in the first hours I call it a day and do other stuff like programming and posting some more.

    Sometimes posts on the forum are helpful, but most often people are just voicing their opinions, and not really insight.
     
    #15     Apr 15, 2004
  6. Mecro

    Mecro

    Not true at all. Also I feel that not talking to someone just because of their profit situation is a very bad attitude to take.

    I think everyone is profitable in my row but we aren't really friends nor do we really share ideas. We call out some interesting stuff here or there but nothing like a team.
     
    #16     Apr 15, 2004
  7. Just don't talk about your trading whether they are traders or not, best solution. It doesn't mean I never ever talk about the market, but not about my positions or my P/L or my detailed opinion of the market I don't want to have to answer Q's like "hey how much did you make today?" each time I see someone. After a few years doing this, you don't want to have to think about trading all the time anyway.
     
    #17     Apr 15, 2004
  8. dchang0

    dchang0

    It's pretty much the same conflict as that between every individual's need for privacy and his/her need to socialize. Somewhere in the middle of these two competing (but not necessarily diametrically-opposing) needs is a balance point for the individual in question. The ultra-private (some would say, "paranoid") individual wants no friends (traders or not). The ultra-social individual can only trade with the support and cameraderie of friends (mostly traders--people just like him/her). And there are going to be moments when the ultra-social individual has an intense need for privacy and vice versa, so there's no clear-cut answer to this question.

    To the original question, I say this: I think it's good to have trader friends that are at or slightly above your trading skill level so that you can "trade" ideas and knowledge with them, yet not keep those friends so close that they dominate either your trading or social life, and hence, your trading decisions. Your relationships will always be in flux, and it's up to you to maintain the balance necessary to match your own priorities and keep your trading profitable.
     
    #18     Apr 15, 2004
  9. Like pd said, "Be yourself."
     
    #19     Apr 15, 2004
  10. Sanjuro

    Sanjuro

    If you're going to have some trading friends, make sure
    they are better traders than you.

    Having noob trading friends will only hurt your performance
    and affect your judgement negatively.

    They'll say stupid **** like "It's all luck!".
    Also, "Why did you sell so early?", only after the stock takes off.
    I had non-trader friends who use to think trading was so easy
    and talked like they could catch all the moves. After they opened
    their trading account and lost half their money, it really shut them up.
     
    #20     Apr 15, 2004