Should flags be lowered for Helms, a bigot?

james_bond_3rd · Jul 9, 2008

Apparently someone thinks not. He lost his job over it:
http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/politicians/helms/story/1135443.html

hoodooman · Jul 9, 2008

Maybe this will have repercussions that Easley can't handle. If the guy runs for office, I'll vote for him. I'm living in North Carolina.

AAAintheBeltway · Jul 9, 2008

Good riddance. Another government employee who thought he could make his own policy. If a partisan hack like governor Easley could go along with honoring the greatest North Carolinian of the 20th century, you'd think this moron could. Probably he was ready to retire anyway and was looking to get some publicity.

nutmeg · Jul 9, 2008

I would have fired his ass and took his pension. If he didn't like helms he could have run against him or wrote a letter to the editor. The flag is for the office not the person. Helms was elected for better or worse.

Nick Leeson Jr · Jul 9, 2008

Hey James, should the flag be lowered for Ted Kennedy, when he dies (very soon). Kennedy's crime was a lot worse than bigotry, in case you didn't know.

james_bond_3rd · Jul 9, 2008

Quote from Nick Leeson Jr:

Hey James, should the flag be lowered for Ted Kennedy, when he dies (very soon). Kennedy's crime was a lot worse than bigotry, in case you didn't know.
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If you have the evidence that proves the crime, give it to the police or the FBI. It's silly to compare a crime to bigotry.

Lucrum · Jul 9, 2008

Quote from Nick Leeson Jr:

Hey James, should the flag be lowered for Ted Kennedy, when he dies (very soon). Kennedy's crime was a lot worse than bigotry, in case you didn't know.
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ZINGER!

milica · Jul 12, 2008

To James_Bond_3rd:
You said--
"If you have the evidence that proves the crime, give it to the police or the FBI. It's silly to compare a crime to bigotry." You're correct- Kennedy's crime is much worse than bigotry.

"Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law?
Or is there one system for the average citizen
and another for the high and mighty?"
- Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973 -

Go to the link below. It's a fairly complete chronology of the weekend that ended Mary Jo Kopeckne's life, and turned Ted Kennedy into one of the 'high and mighty' quoted above. The crime was noted by various police officials, witnesses, and even the mainstream media of the day. It's a grand cover-up, laced with illegal activity, lies, and gross immaturity on Kennedy's part.

http://www.ytedk.com/intro.htm

hughb · Jul 12, 2008

Here's an interesting piece that appeared in this weeks issue of San Diego's Gay and Lesbian Times:

General Gayety
The future of Jesse Helms
by Leslie Robinson
Published Thursday, 10-Jul-2008 in issue 1072
Itâs a popular notion that, after we die, we get what we deserve. So letâs assume thatâs precisely whatâs happening to Jesse Helms, the longtime U.S. senator from North Carolina who expired on July 4.
As I picture things, after Helms died he immediately passed into a spiritual realm. He found himself in front of gates, where a man in a flowing robe was in charge.
Helms smiled broadly. âSt. Peter, Iâm glad to see you!â
The man responded, âIâm not St. Peter. Iâm Ralph. And this isnât heaven. The Big Guy hasnât decided what to do with you yet, Helms. Heâs well aware that conservatives believe you should be in heaven, and liberals think you belong in hell. Heâll make up his own mind, eventually. Go through the gates and sit on the bench. Weâve arranged for a few visitors.â
Helms proceeded to the bench. After a minute Richard Nixon joined him. âJesse, I knew youâd get here eventually. Remember how, when I went to Beijing, you accused me of âappeasing Red China?â I just want to say, up yours with a pair of splintery chopsticks.â
Before Helms could gather himself to reply, Nixon vanished, replaced by the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Helms smirked. âIâm not surprised youâre here in limbo,â he said to the civil rights leader.
âActually, Iâm here just to see you. Lord knows I wasnât perfect, but Heâs seen fit to give me a place upstairs. Deal with it.â
King continued, âNow Jesse, in life you relied on race-baiting to get elected. You found low-down ways to scare all those white people into voting for you. Remember 1990?â
âAh,â cackled Helms, âwe pulled that one out of the fire.â
âYou were losing to the black candidate, until the famous ad showing a white manâs hands crumpling a job application, with the voiceover, âYou needed that job â¦ But they had to give it to a minority.ââ
Helms looked King square in the face. âYouâre just mad because I was the only senator to vote against your holiday, you communist.â
âIâm glad you brought that up. The 16-day filibuster you staged against me caught the attention of The Big Kahuna, who said that if you can delay that long, youâll have no trouble being patient while He decides what to do with you. I think weâre looking at more than 40 days and 40 nights here.â
Helms groaned. He groaned again as Robert Mapplethorpe replaced King.
âYou may not be pleased to see me, Jesse, but it could be worse. It was a toss-up between me and some victims of the El Salvadoran death squads you supported.â
Mapplethorpe threw his arm around the former senator. âJesse, sweetie, letâs remember the good old days. When you fought to keep gays and lesbians out of appointed positions in government. When you stood firm against federal aid for AIDS research and treatment. Was that when you called gays âweak, morally sick wretches?ââ
âCanât remember,â grumbled Helms.
Mapplethorpe continued, âAnd who could forget your battle with the NEA for subsidizing my photos? You made me a household name, honey. By the by, I wonât tell you where I landed afterlife-wise, but for tonight, weâre roommates.â
As Helms gagged, Ralph the gatekeeper replaced Mapplethorpe. âOh Helms,â mused Ralph, âwhere should a demagogue go? You get credit for loving your country. Trouble was, that country was the Confederacy. You were dedicated to public service â but you cared only for a portion of the public.â
Ralph shrugged. âI think youâre going to be with us a long while. If you want company, I can put in a request that Mapplethorpe remain for the duration.â
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james_bond_3rd · Jul 12, 2008

Quote from milica:

To James_Bond_3rd:
You said--
"If you have the evidence that proves the crime, give it to the police or the FBI. It's silly to compare a crime to bigotry." You're correct- Kennedy's crime is much worse than bigotry.

"Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law?
Or is there one system for the average citizen
and another for the high and mighty?"
- Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973 -

Go to the link below. It's a fairly complete chronology of the weekend that ended Mary Jo Kopeckne's life, and turned Ted Kennedy into one of the 'high and mighty' quoted above. The crime was noted by various police officials, witnesses, and even the mainstream media of the day. It's a grand cover-up, laced with illegal activity, lies, and gross immaturity on Kennedy's part.

http://www.ytedk.com/intro.htm
More...

milica

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Why don't you post under your regular id? Are you trying to hide something?