Should Confederate War Memorials/Statues Be Abolished?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Here is page 545 of that book,I dont see that quote

    https://books.google.com/books?id=fuTY3mxs9awC&pg=PA545&lpg=PA545#v=onepage&q&f=false


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    #61     Aug 13, 2017
  2. fhl

    fhl


    Tony, your own quote from a different post includes a tiny line at the end saying that they don't have evidence of the claims about lincoln and the 13th ammendment. Did you forget that i already referenced that? You know, when I said you included a line in your quote that you forgot to expunge?

    Who's the antifa thug that wrote the review about dilorenzo? Does he advocate killing whitey, too?
     
    #62     Aug 13, 2017
  3. fhl

    fhl

    post #25 of this thread. Tony's post


    includes this quote from tony:

    " however, Lincoln's precise role in making deals for votes remains unknown"


    So the vast majority of historians that tony keeps quoting are sure about something for which they have no evidence.

    GOT IT

    this agrees with Dilorenzo, btw. Not the antifa historians tony hero-worships
     
    #63     Aug 13, 2017
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Dilorenzo is supposedly quoting page 545 of David H. Donald's book and there is no such quote on 545 of that book.


    Here is a quote from David H. Donald's book showing Lincoln trying to make a deal with the south.Lincoln offers the south 400 million compensation for their slaves if the south agrees to end the war and accept the thirteenth amendment.This is proof from your source that Lincoln was indeed trying to end slavery



    From the guy you/Dilorenzo called the "preeminent Lincoln scholar of our time"

    https://books.google.com/books?id=fuTY3mxs9awC&pg=PA560&lpg=PA545#v=onepage&q&f=false

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    #64     Aug 13, 2017
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Lincoln publicly stating his intention to end slavery prior to his re election and telling congress to pass the 13 amendment in his state of the union is proof of his lobbying to end slavery.And again the guy you keep quoting and called the "preeminent Lincoln scholar of our time" wrote in his book Lincoln offered the south 400 million if they agreed to end the war and accept the thirteenth amendment.
     
    #65     Aug 13, 2017
  6. fhl

    fhl


    It doesn't matter if Dilorenzo flubbed a quote or not. What he said agrees with the tiny footnote you forgot to expunge from your numerous quotes.

    " however, Lincoln's precise role in making deals for votes remains unknown"

    They have no evidence. Capice?


    Tony keeps posting quote after quote from antifa historitards who all agree that lincoln got the 13th ammend passed. But the tiny, little problem is they have no evidence. Which they admit if it's dragged out of them.

    But they keep pushing the canard anyway. They just keep telling it over and over.....

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    #66     Aug 14, 2017
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Lincoln publicly stating his intention to end slavery prior to his re election and telling congress to pass the 13 amendment in his state of the union is evidence of him fighting for the 13 amendment.


    The guy you called the "preeminent Lincoln scholar of our time" wrote that Lincoln tried to get the 13 amendment accepted by the south by giving them 400 million in compensation for their slaves.
     
    #67     Aug 14, 2017
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Telling Congress in his 1864 presidential state of the union to pass the 13th amendment is using the influence of his office to try to get the 13th passed.
     
    #68     Aug 14, 2017
  9. fhl

    fhl


    Telling Congress over and over that we need a wall is evidence that he's using his influence to build a wall.
     
    #69     Aug 14, 2017
  10. fhl

    fhl


    Your own antifa historitards:

    " however, Lincoln's precise role in making deals for votes remains unknown"
     
    #70     Aug 14, 2017