There's nothing glorifying in these monuments. The Vietnam Memorial reminds us of what happened in Vietnam and who died there. It isn't to glorify the war. We have it to remember those who died so we hope it doesn't happen again. A country has history. Remove it at your own peril. Personally I don't give a shit if you want to take down statues. What you fail to see is that it is a slippery slope. Remove statues that someone finds offensive and end up removing everything, because everything is offensive to someone.
I'm not surprised you disagree. Your side is all about the suppression of speech and dialogue you do not like because it is offensive to you.
That's not an argument. You conflate unnamed soldiers in IwoJima to well known Confederate individuals, and expect people to agree?
Its not meant to be an argument. You say you disagree. Who am I to tell you how to feel? You want to remove all those things out there that offend you. I don't. We will disagree on whether they should and why. Eventually, you will see how your movement begins to eat its own, and we will be left with nothing because everything becomes offensive. I am content to let that happen.
Shoudn't Confederate soldiers fighting to keep slavery be offensive to all Americans? It is history to be studied, not a movement to have monuments built to celebrate. Also as I indicated which you gloss over, the Civil War is NOT being erased, it is taught in all the schools, its battlegrounds are heavily visited tourist cites, plenty of museums tell the story. You are mistating the facts. Your argument that we are removing history conveniently overlooks the large amount of history that is already preserved. If you can only learn about the Civil War from a statute of a confederate soldier in a park square then the education system has failed you.
Please post where the celebrations for these monuments are. I always seem to miss the good parties. A monument isn't always a celebration. The Alamo, for example, probably isn't celebrated or appreciated by American Indians. Yet there it is, a lesson in history. I am misstating facts? Where? You say it is taught in "all the schools". Are you sure about that? Because so far, as of this point, my son hasn't learned about the Civil war, and he is going into the 6th grade. I learned it well before that. Are you sure it is taught in "all the schools"? I didn't bring this up before because I didn't think it was a discussion we should go back and forth on. But since you are accusing me of glossing over it, I see we now have to have an argument on every fucking pedantic point no matter how trivial. I can do that with you from now on, since you insist. No it doesn't. I specifically mention the slippery slope where I feel this leads to in several posts. You don't have to agree with my perspective. I honestly don't give a shit. It's still my perspective and you can kindly piss off if you don't like it. I'm not overlooking the large amount of history already preserved - just the amount that is under attack. Where did I say you can only learn about the Civil War from a statue? All I said - which I will again repeat - is that these statues you find offensive are a part of our history. I find certain statues offensive as well. I find many things the Left says and does offensive but I defend their right to say and do those things (so long as it does not affect another person). That's called the Freedom of Expression. If someone wants to fly a confederate flag over their house, who are you to enforce your values on them? Other people value different things and view different statues, monuments, in different ways. Because you feel upset and triggered from them, everyone has to have them removed. Eventually, even the things you support will become "illegal" to someone wanting them down or removed, simply because they feel threatened or offended. When that day comes when everything is offensive to everyone and nothing can be put out, you can look back and thank yourself for being part of this "progressive" movement of "tolerance".
Your school then is woefully behind and you should look into transferring to another school. Who knows what else he will fall behind in. Seems like wasted taxpayer money to me. I would think you would be more vested in proper education. My son already visited Antietam and did a full report on the Battle of Gettysburg in 5th or 6th grade. I still have the laminated cards his group made of the generals and key personnel on both sides of the battle. I will send you the information on the school as you may want to look for an upgrade. The rest of my other comments were simply to troll you as I knew you would launch into logorrhea to defend keeping confederate statutes up. Too easy.
Ah, if your intent is merely to troll me then I'll put you down with the rest of the posters here I do my best to avoid who are not going to have an adult conversation. Thank you for clarifying and preventing me from wasting future time. Best of luck to you.
My comments were honest, you answered them like a pissed off child. As I said, if your kid has not studied Civil War then you have a problem with your school and you were wrong to say the history is being erased. When I am challenged I provide facts and supporting reasoning. You just stomp your feet and cry "History is being erased! wah wah" Just in your school district I guess. Go talk to the school baord and ask them why it is not taught... Don't you care that your school district is subpar? WTF are you paying taxes for? No one has the right to fly a Confederate flag in public spaces if the public does not want them to fly the flag. Raise it up on your house flagpole, put a Confederate flag bumper sticker on your car for all I care. But a statute of a treasonous general who led an army to rise up against the U.S. government because they did not want to be told to not own people and treat them like shit does not deserve a statute in a public park.
I didn't stomp my feet about anything. I stated that I believe that taking down statues and monuments is the beginning of a moment to squelch free speech and remove items that are a part of the country's history - good or bad. I further stated that this is just the beginning and sooner or later it will lead to the overall removal of anything that causes people offense - including the actual event itself. You then began acting like an asshole, which I returned in kind. You then admitted your intent was to troll me, so why are you shocked that I responded like an ass right back at you? Seems you're whining about me whining, etc. If the "public" does not want them to. See, that's the thing - the crux of the matter. Not everyone in the public agrees. Some do, others don't. What is going to happen one day when someone tells you that you can't do something you want to do or tells you to remove something you want to display? Because it will happen. That's the whole concept of the slippery slope. Someone has to decide what is and is not offensive, and someday that someone won't be you. Ever see the movie PCU?