Should Confederate War Memorials/Statues Be Abolished?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    "The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away... Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon it—when the "storm came and the wind blew, it fell."Confederate States of America Vice President Alexander Stephens
     
    #191     Aug 26, 2017
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    #192     Aug 26, 2017
  3. fhl

    fhl

    The south seceded over states rights. They didn't declare war.

    The north said the south could keep their slaves, even offering to put it in the constitution, but that the south could not leave, and could not stop paying taxes. Or there would be war. Lincoln both said so and put it in writing.

    How much more proof does one need that the war was not over slavery?

    The entire leftists narrative is nothing but a lie promulgated by liars.
     
    #193     Aug 26, 2017
  4. fhl

    fhl

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    #194     Aug 26, 2017
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    The vice President of The Confederate States of America said African slavery as it exists among us,the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization was the immediate cause of the civil war but of course you would know better than he did
     
    #195     Aug 26, 2017
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


     
    #196     Aug 26, 2017
  7. fhl

    fhl

    The south seceded when South Carolina declared secession on Dec 20, 1860. Other states soon followed.

    The civil war did not start until April 12, 1861. The north invaded the south because the south refused to pay the new import taxes that were legislated in 1860 and signed into law two days before Lincoln was inaugurated. The new Morrill tariff increased import taxes, which primarily affected the south, in a graduating manner to reach 47% by 1863.
     
    #197     Aug 26, 2017
  8. fhl

    fhl

    The president of the Union States, Abraham Lincoln, said that slavery was not the cause of the civil war but of course Tony Stark would know better than he did.

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    #198     Aug 26, 2017
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    fhl

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    #199     Aug 26, 2017
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    The north invaded the south because the south attacked Fort Sumter
     
    #200     Aug 26, 2017
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