Short term trading

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Newc2, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. carl0215

    carl0215

    A stock has momentum when it doesn't need any help from a dip (shit) to continue in its current direction.
     
    #11     Mar 15, 2017
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  2. carl0215

    carl0215

    Think about what's happening in the order book where price has not yet traded. And that is how momo precedes price. I'll also add you should be able to see by looking left where the momo begins.
     
    #12     Mar 15, 2017
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  3. %%
    As you implied, it does not. Momentum is price speedometer. It may get [lead,LOL ] one to get out of a trade waaaaaay to early ,LOL. So if one loves early indicators ,lead on , with momentum. IBD [ Investors Business Daily] newspaper uses them on futures charts, so some may like that lagging.........
     
    #13     Mar 15, 2017
  4. I don't think
    I don't think the phrase 'momo precedes price' is referring to the order book. Just to technical indicators, that are based on last traded price.
     
    #14     Mar 15, 2017
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  5. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Ummmmm -- if I follow you here, you're recommending a book that wouldn't work for you, based on dismissing volume as being the other half of every trade besides price.
    Ehhhhhh.
    Errrr-ummmmmm.
    Uhhhh.
    No.

    Any transaction is price x volume.
    You ignore either at your peril.
    Period.
     
    #15     Mar 15, 2017
  6. comagnum

    comagnum

    Wykoff (1873-1934) is widely used by a number of market wizards and still works today with astonishing results. Wykoff saw large volume as the catalyst for equities to stop or go at key areas - like breaking out of ranges. This does not apply to futures - at least not nearly as much.
     
    #16     Mar 15, 2017
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  7. carl0215

    carl0215

    Momentum applied to indicators to anticipate future price movement is hogwash. Traders don't enter positions when the market has momentum. Thus there can be but one other market state that has occurred. That area is where you want to see current momentum to enter trades.
     
    #17     Mar 15, 2017
  8. %%
    Never heard of it used that way; but if he makes a profit, OK by me
     
    #18     Mar 15, 2017
  9. %%
    Good points; + plenty of good moves with average volume, IBD like$ 50 day average volume as a stock helper............................................................................
     
    #19     Mar 15, 2017
  10. Gasparov

    Gasparov

    Agreed, it's the way I was taught and I have never paid any attention to volume whatsoever. As long as you're trading during normal hours, the volume being 1/2x or 2x normal shouldn't matter. Of course, I'm sure if you're trading massive size, it might begin to matter more in terms of slippage.
     
    #20     Mar 15, 2017