Short DAX at 7740

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by ASusilovic, May 23, 2007.

  1. I had in mind Dow or Ftse.
    It improved a bit, but I'm aware it is still vulnerable.

    FESX is a composition of few EU indices but mostly Germany so one could observe very similar behavior.
    Also banks didn't help FESX, it was even lower than DAX, april 2009, close to few years low.

    If I was not stopped out in the morning around 5720 I would be roaring towards new highs. At the moment I'm just limbing with several % loss, crap.
     
    #5601     Aug 12, 2011
  2. surprised nobody has posted about this.

    look at the dax chart today. in 3 minutes the alogs managed to bolster the case for a financial transaction tax.

    the dax dropped 150 points in 3 minutes- 110 of which were in a nanosecond. the ES didn't move- nor did the EUR.USD. this was pure bullshit- again... the exchange reports a single trade in teh futures was responsible for tanking everything. the after effect has been that it has spooked the whole market with the 'they know something' kinda thing. the dax quickly bounced back about 80 points but, spooked in this environment, it didn't recover further and started to drift. as such, other markets then followed. ES dropped 10 more points along with other world markets.

    why? because of dickheads with a phd on the payroll are allowed to fuck with the market in a way that just should not happen.

    and, yes... i got caught in it and my stop limit with a 6 point range was jumped so a very nice day in the dax is pretty fucked up right now. PLEASE nobody tell me i should have a stop market order- if i did, i'd have been executed at 5701- no doubt.

    anyway, even if i had no position, i just want a semi-level playing field. i had a similar woosh kiss 23,000 euros goodbye in a nanosecond a couple of weeks ago. again- jumped my stop. so, yeah, kinda a venting rant...
     
    #5602     Aug 18, 2011
  3. Well, I could not believe it myself, I lost couple of time few k on similar moves.
    It is completely rigged game and we can do pretty much nothing about it at the moment.

    There should be circuit breakers, deals should be cancelled when it breaks levels. Responsible traders should be fined and then we can level the field a bit.
     
    #5603     Aug 18, 2011
  4. eric341

    eric341

    This is why I trade the FESX ^^
     
    #5604     Aug 18, 2011
  5. deja vu


    i don't think i have ever seen a divergence like this. 400 points straight down in teh dax. wtf?

    is this credit rating rumour related or more playtime with the futures or what?

    anybody know anything?

    took the crack team at cnbc 20 minutes to notice. they're all over it now, but they cannot find any news either. meanwhile bloomberg is busy talking about Steve Jobs...

    i feel like the last man on the deal team....

    and, yes, a plus 6000 day just turned into a down 10,000 day.

    lesson to all: don't get distracted and fuck your girlfriend and forget that you have an open limit order (no shit- this is what happened!)
     
    #5605     Aug 25, 2011
  6. FGBL07

    FGBL07

    @Full tilt

    You owe me a new keyboard now. Spit my morning coffee over it reading your post. Sorry for your loss, but thanks for the laugh.

    I have only read some rumors about this flash-crash. Some of them showing that the "experts" have no idea what they are talking about.

    Have a nice weekend nevertheless
     
    #5606     Aug 26, 2011
  7. @Full tilt

    Change GF, this one has not the right karma :D

    Lots of rumors on the market about Germany rating, short selling rules, not easy to trade this dax. I'll stick to estx for now.
     
    #5607     Aug 26, 2011
  8. eric341

    eric341

    I have a question...are your winners smaller than your losers?

    Because it seems like every time a market moves against you, you lose a significant amount.
     
    #5608     Aug 26, 2011
  9. eric341

    eric341

    Sold FESX near the start of yesterday's session.

    Later on I became a little jittery because the sellers weren't stepping in.

    I kept taking my position off then putting it back on, when eventually I thought I'd leave it.

    The market finally started heading down in the US session.

    50+ ticks profit and I'm out.

    Feeling good today because my account balance is at its highest this year.

    Today (Friday) is going to be pivotal imo. We are either headed lower to test the 2110 support or going to keep rising as we have in the past week.

    Although I reckon the market will fall today. But when to go short? At the start, or after a brief rally?
     
    #5609     Aug 26, 2011
  10. yeah, it was short selling rule

    I kept buying from 5520 - 5460 and selling other indices.
    When I closed I had really nice profit on both sides.

    In my view DAX is heavily oversold and sep expiry is approaching.
    I´m not saying that we cannot go down but dax may overperform other indices.
     
    #5610     Aug 26, 2011