Short DAX at 7740

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by ASusilovic, May 23, 2007.

  1. I remember March 1996, a Friday, NFP release. Over 700k jobs created. Treasuries limit down ! 96 / 32 ! Big S&P 500 down 30 points, trading halted for 30 minutes. Thereafter another drop !

    So far as to "negative" considerations...:p
     
    #1141     Oct 4, 2007
  2. Guten Morgen

    I covered all my short at the opening and reversed (still keeping small positions)...

    :p
     
    #1142     Oct 5, 2007
  3. Manni

    Manni

    Expectations are for +100K so if its -400K then this could provide a nice shock to the market.

    I'll put my money on another -ve number this month of around 144K.
     
    #1143     Oct 5, 2007
  4. Hi JSSPMK,

    interesting topic. I am also trading mainly dax.
    What indicators do you use (Histogram ?, MACD?)
    I use no indicators, I always look for "strange" behaviour.
    Like for example showing relativ strength against ES, which often means a lot of traders may soon be on wrong side if ES recovers etc.
    I often trade Dax and hedge with ES and vice versa. The best trades are often Dax panic moves (on both sides long and short) after Dax Cash close.
    I never use hard stops in Dax.
     
    #1144     Oct 5, 2007
  5. Or those mysterious "DAX IS SUDDENLY COMPLETLY IGNORING ES MOVEMENT" after the DAX cash close :D
     
    #1145     Oct 5, 2007
  6. Mysterious, mysterious, mysterious....hmmmm....Oh, now I know what you mean ! =>

    :p :p :p
     
    #1146     Oct 5, 2007
  7. ECB Says Banks Expect Credit Conditions to Tighten

    European banks may make it harder for companies and consumers to borrow money in the next three months after the slump in the U.S. subprime mortgage market increased the cost of credit, the European Central Bank said.

    ``Banks generally reported'' that the recent credit-market turmoil ``may hamper funding over the next three months,'' the Frankfurt-based ECB said in its quarterly bank lending survey, which was published a month earlier than usual today. ``Banks' willingness to lend over the next three months may be affected, to some extent, by the effect of the credit market events on the costs related to the banks' capital position.''

    [...]

    Banks also forecast ``a further net tightening of credit standards'' for home purchases in the fourth quarter and conditions for consumers are expected to ``tighten considerably,'' the ECB said. Banks expect net demand for housing loans to remain ``significantly negative'' and consumer-credit demand to stay unchanged.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aBGE5Q41I7Ic&refer=economy

    Sometimes it´s a good idea to listen to the ECB...They warned markets months ago about "herd-like" mentality in credit derivatives...I think rate hike cycle is definetely over...
     
    #1147     Oct 5, 2007
  8. carl0215

    carl0215

    I also like to look at relative strength in the DAX against the ES. However, I found the spread moved too much to hedge effectively.
     
    #1148     Oct 5, 2007
  9. am flat here...
     
    #1149     Oct 5, 2007
  10. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    I only use histogram, it's now positive on 1 minute chart, bullish pattern

    closed into momentum :)

    Topsurfi, I think I also trade price action, but instead of tape I use histogram calculations. ImO histogram deciphers tape and records a clearer picture what's been done on bid/ask over last period, whatever it might be, especially divergences. There is a reason for everything and indeed there is/are reasons why price pulls away from an indicator. I did try tape based trading but found that it wasn't for me, it's more for the young and very sharp minded ones, I am just a piker that sat in front of a monitor for a long long time :)
     
    #1150     Oct 5, 2007