Short 3x etf is very high % win trade if we dont include borrow cost?

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by GloriaBrown, Oct 28, 2020.

  1. Trend day happens but it is like 1 or 2 out of 10days
     
    #11     Oct 28, 2020
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  2. Short option is risky is even small amount. Short vix optin can easily lose 20 times of your money on table.
     
    #12     Oct 28, 2020
  3. %%
    Something like that/good trend.
    But to put it simple,, anything trends;
    [1] up
    [2] down
    [3] sideways/chop/slop[aka =barbed wire]+ thats bad for leveraged 3x .Better off with cash or dividend payers/ETFs...……………………………………………………………………………………Wisdom is profitable to direct.
     
    #13     Oct 28, 2020
  4. BKR88

    BKR88

    Several years ago so don't remember.
     
    #14     Oct 28, 2020
  5. wmwmw

    wmwmw

    Ok, I give up.
    Can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
     
    #15     Oct 28, 2020
  6. lindq

    lindq

    Always good to see posts from anyone who has walked-the-walk, no matter what the strategy.
     
    #16     Oct 28, 2020
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  7. Have a look
    https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/$VIX/options?expiration=2020-10-28-w
    Current the vix call at 30 strike is raising +346.67%. If you had short call this yesteray, you are losing 346.67% in a day. That is almost impossible for any popular 3x ETF.

    And today is nothing closed to stock market crash yet.
     
    #17     Oct 28, 2020
  8. ValeryN

    ValeryN

    1. I'm occasionally long / short volatility ETFs and it always "feels" like a bad idea if I look at a chart
    2. Positions have to be very small. Might consider short hold internals to reduce a risk of getting stuck a prolonged volatility spike
    Interestingly enough, every single trade in them made money this year.

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    Val
     
    #18     Oct 28, 2020
  9. Anyone likes to short 3x?
     
    #19     Nov 9, 2020