Shld 25d R/r

Discussion in 'Options' started by atticus, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    That position has skew risk.
     
    #91     Nov 8, 2009
  2. I'm confused. If the rate is high on a hard to borrow stock, the calls are going to be higher priced than normal. Why would you want to replace long stock with a long call and a short put? Any reversion toward normal pricing would hurt you.

    It would seem to me that the carry cost would go toward the seller of the call who buys the put (synthetic short).
     
    #92     Nov 8, 2009
  3. It's been a while, but as I recall put-call parity was apparently out of whack. The puts were much more expensive than the calls. So reversion to the mean would benefit the short put holder.

    I think puts were expensive because MM's need to hedge long puts with short stock and that was very expensive. I guess the MM's reflected that expense into the put pricing.

    Anyhow that's my recollection, hopefully it's accurate.

    Don
     
    #93     Nov 9, 2009
  4. It's been a while, but as I recall put-call parity was apparently out of whack. The puts were much more expensive than the calls. So reversion to the mean would benefit the short put holder.

    I think puts were expensive because MM's need to hedge long puts with short stock and that was very expensive. I guess the MM's reflected that expense into the put pricing.

    Anyhow that's my recollection, hopefully it's accurate.

    Don
     
    #94     Nov 9, 2009
  5. nitro

    nitro

    You are confused because there is a high negative interest rate in hard to borrow, which means to short the stock you have to pay, not get the short rate as you normally do on a stock that is not hard to borrow.
     
    #95     Nov 9, 2009
  6. Thanks Don. That makes sense. I wasn't factoring in the negative interest rate for borrowing shares. I was using a positiove rate but obviously, I had it backwards.
     
    #96     Nov 10, 2009
  7. I am sorry, that has interfered... At me a similar situation. It is possible to discuss.
     
    #97     Nov 11, 2009