Sheriff Joe To Vet Obama's Eligibility

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    You're right, I doubt a canceled permit of any kind would mean much.
     
    #111     Mar 3, 2012
  2. Either you don't know or intentionally failed to mention that while you can be born outside of HA and get a HA birth certificate,the HA birth certificate will not say you were born in HA





    "Despite the existence of Obama's Hawaii certification of live birth, Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin's attorney, among others, have claimed that anyone, including foreign-born children, could acquire a Hawaiian certification of live birth, and so Obama's possession of such a certificate does not prove that he was born in Hawaii.However, the suggestion that this could have applied to Obama was rejected by Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health: "If you were born in Bali, for example, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate". Another fact that refutes this specific claim is that the law allowing foreign-born children to obtain Hawaiian birth certificates did not exist until 20 years after Obama was born, while Obama’s published birth certificate says his birth information was recorded four days after his birth in 1961, and explicitly states that he was born in Honolulu."
     
    #112     Mar 3, 2012
  3. spell check said canceled :(
     
    #113     Mar 3, 2012
  4. pspr

    pspr

    I did not know that. It could explain a lot.

    Regardless, if Obama submits his fake birth certificate to any state as proof of U.S. birth he will be commiting criminal fraud.
     
    #114     Mar 3, 2012


  5. "Despite the existence of Obama's Hawaii certification of live birth, Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin's attorney, among others, have claimed that anyone, including foreign-born children, could acquire a Hawaiian certification of live birth, and so Obama's possession of such a certificate does not prove that he was born in Hawaii.However, the suggestion that this could have applied to Obama was rejected by Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health: "If you were born in Bali, for example, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate". Another fact that refutes this specific claim is that the law allowing foreign-born children to obtain Hawaiian birth certificates did not exist until 20 years after Obama was born, while Obama’s published birth certificate says his birth information was recorded four days after his birth in 1961, and explicitly states that he was born in Honolulu."
     
    #115     Mar 3, 2012






  6. Hawaiis dept of health director


    http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Jul/27/br/hawaii90727082.html



    Obama Hawaii born, insist Isle officials


    By Dan Nakaso
    Advertiser Staff Writer


    In an attempt to quash persistent rumors that President Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawaiçi’s health director reiterated this afternoon that she has personally seen Obama’s birth certificate in the Health Department’s archives.

    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai‘i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago....”







    Hawaii's Republican Governor Linda Lingle


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    #116     Mar 3, 2012
  7. But it will have to conform to the other states standards, for instance hospital, physician would be required. That's because other states required proof of birth in the state.

    Besides since the bc he trotted in front of the of public has been proven to be fake it can only mean the he was not born in HI.
     
    #117     Mar 3, 2012


  8. That's not the point. The point is that different states have different standards for gun permits. Some states reciprocate with each other because of common standards but Cali and Texas do not. That is because they have different standards. That is why the permit is not recognized.

    A state that issues a document using different standards renders that document as unacceptable. It's only the things that all states do the same on that it doesn't matter.
     
    #118     Mar 3, 2012
  9. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    I think Sheriff Joe said that his investigators "suspect" that the documents were forged.

    He said that additional analysis would be necessary to prove it.
     
    #119     Mar 4, 2012
  10. In the case of a state record,such as a birth record ,no it would not


    Notice the Constitution doesn't say the the other states record has to conform to other states records and only Congress can prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Four_of_the_United_States_Constitution

    Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
     
    #120     Mar 4, 2012