sharpe ratios

Discussion in 'Trading' started by mind, Dec 10, 2003.

  1. short term, probably 80% trades closed within 24hrs, making around 100 trades/month.
     
    #11     Dec 11, 2003
  2. mind

    mind

    systematic? discretionary?
     
    #12     Dec 11, 2003
  3. At the start I was using systems with a discretionary overlay to try and improve results. Always underperformed the system, so this year I have moved to 100% systematic with much better performance.
     
    #13     Dec 11, 2003
  4. tiocsti

    tiocsti

    Instead of the sharpe, you might want to use the sortino ratio, which uses a downside deviation instead of standard deviation, since in general upside volatility is something you want.
     
    #14     Dec 11, 2003
  5. virgin

    virgin

    Just give me your equity curve........a picture is worth a

    thousand words
     
    #15     Dec 11, 2003
  6. mind

    mind

    tiocsti

    i am conservative and assume anyone can loose what he can gain. even if an equity curve shows strong difference between upside and downside vola i assume they are the same. this is just from experience that sooner or later every upward distorted equity curve distorts down as well. i am aware that "cut losses, let profits run" speaks against that, but especially trend followers, who literally live from this rule, do not show distorted vola over long periods IMHO.

    nevertheless sortino ratio, which divides return by the standard deviation of down observations, and mar ratio, dividing return by draw down, are return/rik figures and therefore better than return as such.

    to me the whole zoo of ratios is to some extent part of what i call financial marketing ... finally it is a question of taste maybe.


    peace
     
    #16     Dec 12, 2003
  7. mind

    mind

    virgin

    very much agreed.


    peace
     
    #17     Dec 12, 2003