Shariah Law in England?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Arnie Guitar, May 1, 2007.

  1. Well, it's only normal, isn't it? Why bother guarding a border if you're not going to shoot people that try to cross it illegally?

    The upside is you wouldn't have to shoot too many. I'm pretty sure they'd soon get the point.
     
    #11     May 1, 2007
  2. The ironic thing is most people wouldn't care about this if the illegals weren't marching. If a bill quietly passed granting amnesty to those already here it wouldn't affect ANYBODY differently. Hell, they are here already...I say let them pay taxes and actually pay for their childrens education....

    These marches do nothing accept create animosity..
     
    #12     May 1, 2007
  3. Can I ask spect8or, TL an Arnie. Had these people never raised the issue of Shria laws but only wanted to be given the freedom to worship whatever god the chose; would that be fine with you??

    Another question (Not directed to spect8or... for obvious reasons). Had these muslims filling Britain were mostly white Europeans (Georgians, Chechnians and Muslim Serbs from Bosnia), would anyone of you minded their presence in Britain??

    Please do not be politically correct and put it as blunt as you can.
     
    #13     May 1, 2007



  4. No, it would certainly not be fine.

    Just look at the world Wael. Places where you find the most religious difference, racial difference, linguistic difference, cultural difference are precisely the places where you find the most trouble, hatred and warfare. Quite clearly, introducing such differences into our societies does not benefit us at all. The idea that diversity is a "strength" is a monstrous lie.

    Georgians are not Muslims, for a start.

    To answer your question, OBVIOUSLY if they are white then at least they aren't going to be a cause of RACIAL division. That's just one less problem we have to conted with.

    Secondly, Albanian and Bosnian Muslims are better behaved than Arab, African and Asian Muslims by orders of magnitude. With all the yapping done about "moderate Islam", it's a wonder I have yet to see anyone suggest Albania or Bosnia as examples. These are the mos lax Muslims you will find anywhere. In fact, an American travelling in Sarajevo might be surprised to hear that it's a Muslim city, since the "Muslims" there are so un-Islamic they could be mistaken for western liberals.

    Nevertheless, their Islamic religion prevents them from interbreeding with non-Muslims, so even though they are racially far more compatible with other Euroepans, they will continue to maintain a distinct identity, which again leads to permanent divisions. (And divisions, I repeat, are not good.)

    Therefore, the easiest answer is to simply end immigration. There is VERY little economic justification for it, and there is certainly no cultural or social benefit from it, so then why the hell do we need it? Hell, if *I*, as an immigrant myself, can admit the lunacy of the whole project, why can't native born westerners themselves see it? And if I'm not concerned about speaking the truth, why are they?
     
    #14     May 1, 2007
  5. PLENTY of people care -- those affected by the presence of the immigrants.

    Yes, the damage has already been done. However, since they came illegally, it would be wrong to reward their behavior, and certainly they would have little ground for complaint where they deported, since that is what the law of the land is. And it would certainly come welcome relief to communities devastated by the alien invasion.
     
    #15     May 1, 2007
  6. Problem is, when that religion chosen is Islam, people to want to, you know, "be Muslims". And being a Muslim, they seem to want to implement Sharia, as the recent poll below demonstrates:

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    Phewee, hardly a "tiny minority" there, eh?
     
    #16     May 1, 2007
  7. The rags would be in for a world of hurt if they tried to enforce that medieval crap here. Americans do not like to be told what religion they are to follow.

    And the blood of the pig fearing would flow like wine in the streets.
     
    #17     May 1, 2007
  8. The answer to your question is yes we would and do mind about immigrants whether they be from Eastern Europe or Muslim countries.

    Race is not an issue here unless you are overtly racist. The bigger issue, for me, anyway is what the immigrants actually contribute to the country. In my view, they take a lot and contribute very little. There are a few issues in this regard:

    (1) By increasing the labour supply immigrant workers decrease wages for the average Briton. Thus the average wages for occupations dominated by immigrants tends to be lower than it would be without them.

    (2) There are also less benefits to the local economy from an immigrant being employed than a local. The reason for this is a significant proportion of an immigrant's wage is not spent locally, but repatriated abroad to their country of destination.

    (3) If you take the average immigrant they are more reliant on government benefits. My observation is that immigrants also tend to have greater likelihood of being involved in organised crime than the average local.

    (4) Immigrants tend to be rather insular. Immigrants inhabit certain areas and mostly adopt a policy of isolation from the locals. Thus, 40% of all immigrants to the UK go to London. The problem isn't them keeping up their own culture. It is they fact they don't assimilate to the local culture.

    (5) Because of typical government incompetence most areas simply don't have the infrastrucuture to deal with the constant flow of immigrants. Public transport in London is a typical example of this.

    I am not against immigrants per se. I am against them if they don't contribute to society, which seems to be clearly the case in Britain presently.
     
    #18     May 1, 2007
  9. Does it make a difference if the Jews in the Middle East came from Europe or are Maghrebi, Berber, Persian Jews, etc.? Or is a Jew a Jew to Palestinians? I think if you answer this question to yourself, you'll get the answer to your own.
     
    #19     May 1, 2007
  10. No, they don't...

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    A fanatic by any other name, or religion, or cult, or creed shits shit that stinks just the same...

     
    #20     May 1, 2007