Shall I get some tips about useing Machine Learning on trading?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by cf0532, Dec 30, 2016.

  1. cf0532

    cf0532

    So it is;
    Could you show me a little/basic about using ML on trading?
     
    #21     Dec 30, 2016
  2. cjbuckley4

    cjbuckley4

    "I think you shall not" -FDAXHunter

    I loved this reply.
     
    #22     Dec 30, 2016
  3. I will try to be really brief here.

    If you know programming, go and generate some random numbers (example using rand() in stdlib.h in C). If you are completely math & programming idiot (as most of the ET here are although most of them will strongly denial this is the case). You can download the free random number generator in your Apple/Android Apps store and it will do the same job.


    Plot those number in the chart. You will be surprise, they look exactly the same as your normal daily price chart in your indices, forex, commodities or whatever things you have in your day trading chart. The chart has support, resistance, trend line, channel, head and shoulder and the whole BS price actions features that the current trading industry try to sell.

    You can even show this chart in ET and ask the "ET Expert" for opinion of the next price move, for the sake of fun of the year end celebration.

    Machine learning on stock market which is random (especially the short term day trading) ? Give me a break.
     
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    #23     Dec 31, 2016
  4. wintergasp

    wintergasp

    Dandomnly generating data "looks" like the market but its not. Easy to prove. Simulate a 50/50 random buy sell every 1 minute on any market you like and aee if you end up at 0. Second option calculate entropy of your dataset
     
    #24     Dec 31, 2016
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  5. O(1)

    O(1)

    Given statement:

    if random data can be created in C, then all data is random

    because it looks similar?

    True or False?
     
    #25     Dec 31, 2016
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  6. Do you ever generate any random number and do this type of experiment before? The number will not go to zero in the short team if you really know what the random number is, and how to simulate the market operations
     
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    #26     Dec 31, 2016
  7. Do this experiment yourself.
    I will not hold hand, especially for someone with several different id names in ET.
     
    #27     Dec 31, 2016
  8. O(1)

    O(1)

    I've done it. It proves nothing.

    According to your logic... If I can randomly generate a chart that looks like the chart that plots your waking and sleeping hours of the day, then you wake and sleep at random. Then build an experiment on top of it and that makes it valid now?
     
    #28     Dec 31, 2016
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  9. LOL. In this case you can continue using machining learning to interpret the random price, looking at your day trading chart and continue to make money as you claimed.
     
    #29     Dec 31, 2016
  10. lovethetrade

    lovethetrade Guest

    What is a holy grail when it comes to trading?
     
    #30     Dec 31, 2016