SF Mayor Gavin Newsome kills 3 by ignoring Federal Law

Discussion in 'Politics' started by John_Wensink, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. He and the city of SF should be held civilly and crimally responsible.

    Slaying suspect once found sanctuary in S.F.
    Jaxon Van Derbeken, Chronicle Staff Writer

    Sunday, July 20, 2008

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    S.F. Shielding Immigrants
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    The man charged with killing a father and two sons on a San Francisco street last month was one of the youths who benefited from the city's long-standing practice of shielding illegal immigrant juveniles who committed felonies from possible deportation, The Chronicle has learned.

    Edwin Ramos, now 21, is being held on three counts of murder in the June 22 deaths of Tony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16. They were shot near their home in the Excelsior district when Tony Bologna, driving home from a family picnic, briefly blocked the gunman's car from completing a left turn down a narrow street, police say.

    Ramos, a native of El Salvador whom prosecutors say is a member of a violent street gang, was found guilty of two felonies as a juvenile - a gang-related assault on a Muni passenger and the attempted robbery of a pregnant woman - according to authorities familiar with his background.

    In neither instance did officials with the city's Juvenile Probation Department alert federal immigration authorities, because it was the city agency's policy not to consider immigration status when deciding how to deal with an offender. Had city officials investigated, they would have found that Ramos lacked legal status to remain in the United States.

    Federal authorities, however, also missed an opportunity to take Ramos into custody just this past March - after they had learned of his immigration status and started deportation proceedings, and after Ramos was arrested in San Francisco on a gun charge. For reasons the federal agents cannot explain, they did not put an immigration hold on Ramos.

    Raised in El Salvador
    Juvenile justice authorities locally had a policy for at least a decade of not turning over illegal immigrant felons to the federal government, interpreting San Francisco's self-proclaimed sanctuary-city status and state law as barring local officials from surrendering them for deportation.

    Mayor Gavin Newsom rescinded that policy earlier this month after The Chronicle reported that the city had flown a number of youths out of the country on its own, in possible violation of federal law, and then housed some in unlocked group homes from which they quickly escaped.

    Ramos came to the United States at age 13 from El Salvador, where he had been raised by his grandmother.

    Authorities familiar with his background said Ramos wanted to be near his mother, who had abandoned him when he was 4 months old; she was living with two of her other children in San Francisco.

    According to records, his first contact with San Francisco police came Oct. 22, 2003, when officers were summoned to investigate an attack on a Muni bus at 21st and Mission streets.

    Ramos, who had just turned 17, had allegedly flashed gang signs and banged on the bus' windows with two other gang members. The three then yelled, "Who are you with?" at a passenger, who responded that he did not belong to a gang, police said.

    At that point, Ramos and the other two boarded the bus and beat and kicked the man, an attack that was recorded by the bus' video camera, authorities said.

    Ramos was taken to juvenile hall on charges of assault and participating in a street gang. He was later convicted in juvenile court and was put in a shelter.

    At that point, under federal law, Ramos could have been referred to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. But the Juvenile Probation Department's policy for dealing with offenders stipulated that "probation officers shall not discriminate in any fashion against minors based on their immigration status." If the department made any inquiries into whether Ramos was a legal U.S. resident, it did not pass along its findings to the federal government
  2. The way to deal with this is to move them into group homes in Nancy Pelosi's upscale neighborhood. I think the policy would quickly be revised. Liberals couldn't care less about the suffering of ordinary people. Ordinary people have to suck it up so that liberals can feel good about themselves.

    In other news, one of the benefits of giving California back to mexico would be getting rid of this whole problem. No Nancy Pelosi, no Gavin Newsom, no Barbara Boxer, no diane Feinstein. Maybe we could get mexico to take Massachusetts too.
  3. San Francisco is one of the most fucked up cities in this country unless you're a moonbat or illegal immigrant with homicidal tendencies.
  4. Who knows, maybe the next time a harbored illegal decides to kill a bunch of people maybe it will be a relative of those in power that protect them.

    Surely those in power would stop breaking the law.
  5. Lucrum


    What a capital idea.
  6. You need not worry about that....Bush has already done that by prosecuting BP agents and ignoring immigration laws. Don't you know that it's called Mexifornia now? Dude...get with it already.

  7. maxpi


    We have anarchy in the US really. Moonbats declare their cities to be sanctuaries and rush to marry homos when the will of the people is the exact opposite.....
  8. its a damn shame that SF is so way out there on the liberal end. easily the most beautiful US city, and a zillion things to do there. I used to live in the Russian Hill area. main reason i moved was due to the huge number of aggressive homeless panhandlers. These people would hassle me for money on a daily basis. not only does SF turn the cheek to this behavior, the city actually encourages the homeless to move there. They give a monthly check to every homeless person that applies. Fucking amazing.
  9. Doc it seems though that every raid ect I hear about is Fed and it's all of these Cal municipalities saying that they're the ones not interested in making Federal arrests. Am I missing something?
  10. Those damn Republican governors, what will they do next?

    #10     Jul 24, 2008