SEYKOTA's method?

Discussion in 'Educational Resources' started by billpritjr, May 18, 2003.

  1. Thanks. You make a distinction between faster and slower MA's. Do you apply both of them to the chart for different trade purposes. Faster for a swing trade, slower for position? Or, do you use both to confirm a trade, and if so what is your methodology?

    Thanks again. Great thread.
     
    #11     May 19, 2003
  2. Both are applied to the chart. The MA's reflect end-of-day data, of price itself.

    BUY when the faster (less days--> "5 day MA") crosses the slower MA from below. SELL POSITIONS HELD (or) SHORT SELL when then faster crosses the slower from above.

    By their very nature, they follow the price, after the price has taken a new direction.

    or, also known as, Trend Following
     
    #12     May 19, 2003
  3. Sorry - I misunderstood your original post. I thought you were saying that you used two "sets" of faster and slower. Now, looking back at it, I see you were giving a range for each.

    Thanks!
     
    #13     May 19, 2003
  4. Determining if a stock exhibit linearity and then choosing an appropriate parameters for MA is ..... dangerous.

    Its call curve fitting.
     
    #14     May 25, 2003
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  5. funky

    funky

    did you see his radial momentum site? that rocks too.....

    one thing i disagree with (out of all the things i DO agree with) is his view on short term trading. he says that while transaction costs stay the same, the profit is smaller with shorter trends. he then concludes that it is more profitable to trade longer timeframes, because it is RISKIER to trade short term trends.

    i don't know about you, but I've seen that the shorter the timeframe, the less risk is involved...for me at least.

    while the profit is smaller with shorter trends, there are MORE of them. this more than offsets the profit/transaction ratio. the ability to consistently compound your money is being overlooked here, which makes short term trend following much more profitable in the end. but, hey, to each his own -- he's the market wizard and i'm the young grasshopper.
     
    #15     May 25, 2003
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  6. funky

    funky

    fwiw....i actually believe that MA's in shorter time frames behave much better than those in longer term time frames. I trade intraday with the 34ema and it works beautifully with little false signals, if you take into account the time of day and other factors.
     
    #16     May 25, 2003
  7. chessman

    chessman Guest

    Ed would probably say why engage in such futile activity, his method is the journey within, to find yourself, when you find yourself, you will find a system that fits your personality...
     
    #17     May 25, 2003
  8. 34ema on what time frame and with what stocks? Thanks!
     
    #18     May 25, 2003
  9. funky

    funky

    1,2,5 min charts using 34ema on all charts. doesn't matter what trading vehicle you use. always stay on the same side of the 5-min, and only deviate this rule on the 1 or 2-min if there's space in between their 34ema and the 5-min 34ema. entries are very tight in that they are placed right at 34ema on smallest timeframe so if they are wrong, you know very quickly. does wonders with your p&l.
     
    #19     May 25, 2003
  10. rrs456

    rrs456

    Hi Funky,

    I have come across 34 ema based system in another site. I posted several questions to the author of the system but never received a reply. I hope I can learn from your experience of using 34 ema based system. Can you please answer the following questions?

    1) What are the unique characteristics of 34 ema? i.e. why 34 ema rather than, say, 8 13 or 22 etc?

    2) Can you illustrate with a chart and explain your point about the "space between" the 34 ema in 5,2,1 min charts?

    3) Do you go long when the price goes above 34 ema and go short when the price goes below it? or, do you have specific entry and exit criteria?

    I have been observing, on paper, both the short and long time frame versions of the 34 ema based systems in trading eminis. It certainly looks promising.

    The settings I noticed on the 3 min 34 ema based system were: 3 min chart -- 34 ema-- 14 cci -- 5,2,2 stoch.

    I certainly agree with your observations on the behaviour of 34 ema based systems in terms of their impact on p/l.


    Thank you.
     
    #20     May 26, 2003