Sex is major reason military commanders are fired

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by IMFTrader, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. Possessing pornography is prohibited in the military, as is having sex with females in uniform. Is the military trying to reduce its dependence on diesel fuel by using semen to power vehicles?

    To quote a savvy blogger: "This incident further details problems with integrating women in the military. When young men and women are together in intimate settings, such as the military, sexual drama inevitably occurs, and sometimes this can have very messy outcomes. Feminists, in their typically simplistic approach to problems, will say “the solution is for men to stop raping women,” but that is to ignore the fact that human sexuality is a powerful force that is often accompanied by extremes of emotion, both positive and negative. To foster an environment that encourages this instability in the military is not only unwise, but reckless, and displays a lack of concern for troops and effectiveness as well. One would hope that our leaders – both military and civilian – could have the courage to stand up to those advocating trendy policy based on puerile notions of “how the world ought to be,” but that hope would most likely be in vain. "

    Sex is major reason military commanders are fired
    By LOLITA (sic) C. BALDOR | | Associated Press – Mon, Jan 21, 2013

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair, fired from his command in Afghanistan last May and now facing a court-martial on charges of sodomy, adultery and pornography and more, is just one in a long line of commanders whose careers were ended because of possible sexual misconduct.

    Sex has proved to be the downfall of presidential candidates, members of Congress, governors and other notables. It's also among the chief reasons that senior military officers are fired.

    At least 30 percent of military commanders fired over the past eight years lost their jobs because of sexually related offenses, including harassment, adultery, and improper relationships, according to statistics compiled by The Associated Press.

    The figures bear out growing concerns by Defense Department and military leaders over declining ethical values among U.S. forces, and they highlight the pervasiveness of a problem that came into sharp relief because of the resignation of one of the Army's most esteemed generals, David Petraeus, and the investigation of a second general, John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan.

    The statistics from all four military services show that adulterous affairs are more than a four-star foible. From sexual assault and harassment to pornography, drugs and drinking, ethical lapses are an escalating problem for the military's leaders.

    With all those offenses taken together, more than 4 in every 10 commanders at the rank of lieutenant colonel or above who were fired fell as a result of behavioral stumbles since 2005.

    The recent series of highly publicized cases led to a review of ethics training across the military. It also prompted Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to conclude that while training is adequate, it may need to start earlier in service members' careers and be reinforced more frequently.

    Still, officials struggle to explain why the problem has grown and they acknowledge that solving it is difficult and will take time.

    "I think we're on the path. I think the last two defense secretaries have made this a very high priority and have very much held people accountable. But we've got a ways to go," said Michele Flournoy, a former undersecretary of defense under President Barack Obama.

    She said the military must enforce a "zero tolerance" policy and work to change the culture so service members are held accountable and made to understand that their careers will be over if they commit or tolerate such offenses.

    "The policy is in place," she said. "I don't know that it's as evenly and fully enforced as intended."

    For top officers, the numbers are startling.

    Eighteen generals and admirals, from one star to four stars, were fired in recent years, and 10 of them lost their jobs because of sex-related offenses; two others were done in by alcohol-related problems.

    The figures show that 255 commanders were fired since 2005, and that 78 of them were felled by sex-related offenses. A breakdown: 32 in the Army, 25 in the Navy, 11 in the Marine Corps and 10 in the Air Force.

    Alcohol and drug-related problems cost the jobs of 27 commanders — 11 in the Navy, eight in the Army, five in the Marine Corp(s and three in the Air Force.

    "It's troublesome," said Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's top spokesman. "Navy leadership is taking a look at why personal conduct seems to be a growing reason for why commanding officers are losing their commands. We're trying to get to the root causes. We don't really fully understand it."

    He and other military leaders agree that poor leadership, bad judgment, and ethical lapses, rather than operational failures, are growing factors in the firings. But Kirby said it's not clear whether that has anything to do with the strains of the past 10 years at war or simply reflects deteriorating morals among the general population.

    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered the ethics review in November. He said that "when lapses occur, they have the potential to erode public confidence in our leadership and in our system for the enforcement of our high ethical standards. Worse, they can be detrimental to the execution of our mission to defend the American people."

    Anu Bhagwati, executive director of the Service Women's Action Network, said there is more focus on this issue now than ever in the past, but that there really is no sufficient deterrent in place. She said a major problem is that military commanders are responsible for deciding what cases should move forward.

    She said military lawyers, who are trained and have a greater appearance of impartiality, should make such an important legal decision.

    The statistics gathered and analyzed by the AP represent a very conservative estimate of the problem. While the Army, Navy and Marine Corps provided details for all military commanders who were lieutenant colonels or commanders and above for 2005 until now, Air Force officials said they could only provide data for colonels and above from 2008 until today.

    Also, the figures reflect only officers who were in command positions. The numbers don't include what could be hundreds of officers fired from other jobs, such as administrative or other military posts. Military officials said they only collect data on officers in command who are fired.

    The reasons for the firings are also murky. In some cases, no reason was listed; in other cases, it was vague — such as "ethics" or "leadership" or for fostering a bad command climate.

    There also are varying degrees of publicity when such action is taken.

  2. The mag in that AK is in backwards. I didn't know you could even get it in that way.
  3. pspr


    It's one of the AK's they sell to liberals. Just like this pistol.

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  4. You can't, and unless my depth perception is gone completely the mag looks like it is behind the weapon, not inserted in it. However, I'm ready to be her captive and we'll work on the insertation techniques.:p ïðèÿòíûé
  5. Lucrum




    Drum mag shooting starts at 0:15

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  6. Back in the day I worked in a hardware store, what a relief, no women worked there. Didn't have to deal with women all day. Once in a while some lady would come in for paint or looking for a screw but we had on the job freedom to swear, make cunt jokes and not worry about sexual harassment.

    Now women work in hardware and building supply stores and bejesus the men working there are as dumb as the women. Aaarrrggghhhhh.

    We used to tell the new guy to go to the stock room and get some 1/2" fallopian tubing.