Setting Up with Fx-Auto

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by fx-auto, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. Sarang

    Sarang

    Quote from fx-auto:

    Dear Sarang,

    That is what column "max positions is for".


    Sure. And Ubertrading.com AUDJPY system is there to contraddict just that with its 6 open positions when the column "max open position" states 2.
     
    #51     Feb 20, 2007
  2. fx-auto

    fx-auto ET Sponsor

    Dear Sarang,
    Ubertrading has 2 open positions in AUDJPY.
     
    #52     Feb 20, 2007
  3. Sarang

    Sarang


    May be. But it had 6 (SIX) open positions just yesterday. They are there for averybody to see. Did you read my other post in its entirety? If not, here is again part of the paragraph concerning Ubertrading.com AUDJPY, which by the way you totally ignored:

    “Just check the system Ubertrading.com AUDJPY on 2/19/2007 at 2:28. 6 (six) positions were opened at the same time. They were also closed at the same time -2/19/2007 at 3:14.
    Now if you check the platform, you see that the stated max position for this system is 2 (two).”

    What is the part of that quote that you don’t understand?
     
    #53     Feb 20, 2007
  4. fx-auto

    fx-auto ET Sponsor

    Sarang,.
    In order to assess your account, which we assume is a demo, please send your query to our support team who will handle the enquiry, we need more information to investigate further.
    We do not have these trades you refer to on our live system or performance log.

    “Just check the system Ubertrading.com AUDJPY on 2/19/2007 at 2:28. 6 (six) positions were opened at the same time. They were also closed at the same time -2/19/2007 at 3:14.
    Now if you check the platform, you see that the stated max position for this system is 2 (two).”

    What is the part of that quote that you don’t understand?
     
    #54     Feb 20, 2007
  5. Sarang

    Sarang

    I have to admit that you are simply amazing. Forget about my account. those trades are not even part of my account. How can you say that you don't have these trades in your performance log when that is the exact place where I got them from? Like I said, they are there for everybody to see them, including you. They are tickets number 5375081 through 5375086. Anyway, here is the partial copy of the performance log. But I am curious, what else are you going to tell me next?



    Trade List




    Trade details for System: Ubertrading.com Pair: AUDJPY
    Total Trades: 21 Total Profit: 2,056.31 Total Pips: 246 Total Swap: 81.43



    Ticket Sub System Type Lots Open Time Open Price Stop Loss Take Profit Close Time Close Price Swap Profit Pips
    5375083 Trade6 Sell 1 2.19.2007 2:28 94.1 94.45 93.75 2.19.2007 3:14 93.93 0.00 142.18 17
    5375084 Trade5 Sell 1 2.19.2007 2:28 94.1 94.45 93.75 2.19.2007 3:14 93.93 0.00 142.18 17
    5375085 Trade4 Sell 1 2.19.2007 2:28 94.1 94.45 93.75 2.19.2007 3:14 93.93 0.00 142.18 17
    5375086 Trade3 Sell 1 2.19.2007 2:28 94.1 94.45 93.75 2.19.2007 3:14 93.93 0.00 142.18 17
    5375081 Trade2 Sell 1 2.19.2007 2:28 94.1 94.45 93.75 2.19.2007 3:14 93.93 0.00 142.18 17
    5375082 Trade1 Sell 1 2.19.2007 2:28 94.1 94.45 93.75 2.19.2007 3:14 93.93 0.00 142.18 17
    5372712 Trade2 Sell 1 2.16.2007 3:58 93.74 0 0 2.16.2007 3:11 93.6 0.00 117.43 14
    5372505 Trade1 Sell 1 2.16.2007 2:47 93.7 94.05 0 2.16.2007 3:11 93.6 0.00 83.88 10
    5363474 Trade1 Buy 1 2.13.2007 2:08 93.85 93.85 94.2 2.13.2007 2:30 93.85 0.00 0.00 0
    5363472 Trade2 Buy 1 2.13.2007 2:08 93.85 93.85 94.2 2.13.2007 2:30 93.85 0.00 0.00 0
    5357278 Trade2 Buy 1 2.9.2007 12:38 94.58 94.01 95.51 2.9.2007 4:37 94.73 0.00 123.61 15
    5357276 Trade2 Buy 1 2.9.2007 12:38 94.58 92 95.01 2.9.2007 4:37 94.71 0.00 107.14 13
    5344539 Trade3 Buy 1 2.5.2007 4:03 93.5 0 0 2.5.2007 12:12 93.53 0.00 24.82 3
    5344536 Trade2 Buy 1 2.5.2007 4:02 93.47 91.41 94.41 2.5.2007 12:12 93.53 0.00 49.65 6
    5344537 Trade1 Buy 1 2.5.2007 4:02 93.47 91.41 94.41 2.5.2007 12:12 93.53 0.00 49.65 6
    5336064 Trade1 Buy 1 2.1.2007 12:34 93.43 0 93.73 2.2.2007 12:43 93.48 11.58 41.39 5
    5315085 Trade1 Buy 1 1.30.2007 1:11 94.12 0 94.5 2.2.2007 12:42 93.49 57.90 -521.61 -63
    5160333 Trade1 Buy 1 1.11.2007 4:11 93.46 0 0 1.11.2007 2:23 94.2 0.00 615.12 74
     
    #55     Feb 20, 2007
  6. fx-auto

    fx-auto ET Sponsor

    Dear Sarang,
    We will investigate these tickets.
     
    #56     Feb 20, 2007
  7. Sarang

    Sarang

    I am not sure what exactly you mean by that. Fx-Auto has just removed 4 (four) of the six trades from the performance log. The thought that you guys can manipulate the performance log and the portfolio trade history that easily is pretty scary to say the least.
     
    #57     Feb 20, 2007
  8. virgin

    virgin

    After this "incident" , they have lost all credibility with me.
     
    #58     Feb 20, 2007
  9. So all we have seen were just in our DEMO account. We can not know how the real live account system work! So it will be very nice if any members use this system for your live account could stand out to describe a little details about how you manage your portfolio with this system. Do you also have the same problem that the signal providers open much more positions than your expecting?

    I am also curious about why FXDDAuto do not release all the functions, for instance Fixed Fractional and Fixed Ratio, to let us try using your system? This could make us much more understand your system and prepare well before open a live account. If we try these functions not so well at the first time we using our real money, maybe we will lost profits that originally should not be lost! You could lower our risk and anxiousness just by releasing the full functions except signals providing. Why you do not let us use the other 2 setting methods? I think it's OK that you do not want us see when and how the signal comes in, but why you do not let us use the other management functions?

    And you still have not answered my question in my post
    'http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86454'
    which is: Can I fix each signal provider's SL?
    So I guess the reason that you don't want to answer this question is your system do not have this function and I have to change the SL I want every time the signal opening a new trade, otherwise I should do nothing just watch the pips like Quants-MP40(ticket 5369680) sliding down to -310!

    I claim that all I said were not against your system. I am just a little unsatisfied about the ways you running your system. This could be a great and fantastic system if you do as the right things as what your website homepage said. And you should consider the customers' opinion. Please do not ignore or walk through our opinions. I found the things you have done was not to solve the problems but to increase the suspicion about your system. If the Ubertrading really had opened 6 positions before, you should claim that you will fix this problem and said the mistake will not appear again. But you removed the record in history!('Sarang' provided the details of the list, I think it's more believable than your words) This will make us know more certainly that you can change the history arbitrarily and the past trading histroy now mean nothing to us! It has enough reason that we may doubt you working with those signal providers together to cheat our money. Now only the live account members can stand out to defense for you but till now I see no one claim that he or she really made profits through your system.

    Through 2 weeks I used your demo system, I found if we select the right signal providers and control well the SL, we still can make a good profit! And most signals activities were as the same as the curve showing in history. So as the 2 weeks result, I would say the history may not cheat us. But after all, I am using the DEMO account, there may be no persuasion. How does the live account feel? Seems no one would give us a describing. Much more new members like us come to your site and because of unfamiliar with this system, so have a lot of questions to ask. At this situation if the admin of FXDDAUTO still work like this, I think you will lose more member join into your system!

    The bad thing for us is not your system's flaw.The bad thing is that you do not have the right attitude to fix the flaw. What decide your system be more trustful is:1.whether you have the will to consider our opinions and help us solve our problems. 2.whether you have the courage to admit your system's flaw and fix it!

    You always think your system is perfect and the only problem is we do not know how to manage our portfolio, how to set the leverage and don't invest much more money. But why a good management system can not even be better to fix the positions and fix the SL? There are so many posts in here that reflect hoping to solve these problems, you just walk through it. Even a word that indicate you will make those functions available in the future, you did not give us. How could let us be more trustful with your system and introduce more people to here?

    I really hope your system will be much much better, more and more people will join in here and make profits! So if what I have said makes you feel uncomfortable, I am sorry for that! Maybe in some places I have misunderstand you, but like all the newbies in here, we just want a more safe and suitable system for us to work with.
     
    #59     Feb 20, 2007
  10. fx-auto

    fx-auto ET Sponsor

    Dear Sun,
    Please see below;

    So all we have seen were just in our DEMO account. We can not know how the real live account system work! So it will be very nice if any members use this system for your live account could stand out to describe a little details about how you manage your portfolio with this system. Do you also have the same problem that the signal providers open much more positions than your expecting?

    No, this is not a problem.

    I am also curious about why FXDDAuto do not release all the functions, for instance Fixed Fractional and Fixed Ratio, to let us try using your system? This could make us much more understand your system and prepare well before open a live account. If we try these functions not so well at the first time we using our real money, maybe we will lost profits that originally should not be lost! You could lower our risk and anxiousness just by releasing the full functions except signals providing. Why you do not let us use the other 2 setting methods? I think it's OK that you do not want us see when and how the signal comes in, but why you do not let us use the other management functions?

    Fixed Lot is the sizing method the majority of FX traders relate to. Fixed Fractional needs SL to function correctly, SL in TP are not shown in DEMO mode.


    And you still have not answered my question in my post
    'http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86454'
    which is: Can I fix each signal provider's SL?

    Yes, you can move the SL in any open trade, or close or change TP for that matter in a live account. How to do this is demonstrated in the manual.

    So I guess the reason that you don't want to answer this question is your system do not have this function and I have to change the SL I want every time the signal opening a new trade, otherwise I should do nothing just watch the pips like Quants-MP40(ticket 5369680) sliding down to -310!

    I claim that all I said were not against your system. I am just a little unsatisfied about the ways you running your system. This could be a great and fantastic system if you do as the right things as what your website homepage said. And you should consider the customers' opinion. Please do not ignore or walk through our opinions. I found the things you have done was not to solve the problems but to increase the suspicion about your system. If the Ubertrading really had opened 6 positions before, you should claim that you will fix this problem and said the mistake will not appear again. But you removed the record in history!('Sarang' provided the details of the list, I think it's more believable than your words) This will make us know more certainly that you can change the history arbitrarily and the past trading histroy now mean nothing to us! It has enough reason that we may doubt you working with those signal providers together to cheat our money. Now only the live account members can stand out to defense for you but till now I see no one claim that he or she really made profits through your system.

    See the Journal Page.


    Through 2 weeks I used your demo system, I found if we select the right signal providers and control well the SL, we still can make a good profit! And most signals activities were as the same as the curve showing in history. So as the 2 weeks result, I would say the history may not cheat us. But after all, I am using the DEMO account, there may be no persuasion. How does the live account feel? Seems no one would give us a describing. Much more new members like us come to your site and because of unfamiliar with this system, so have a lot of questions to ask. At this situation if the admin of FXDDAUTO still work like this, I think you will lose more member join into your system!

    We take all comments on board in order to improve our products, they are most appreciated.

    The bad thing for us is not your system's flaw.The bad thing is that you do not have the right attitude to fix the flaw. What decide your system be more trustful is:1.whether you have the will to consider our opinions and help us solve our problems. 2.whether you have the courage to admit your system's flaw and fix it!

    You always think your system is perfect and the only problem is we do not know how to manage our portfolio, how to set the leverage and don't invest much more money. But why a good management system can not even be better to fix the positions and fix the SL? There are so many posts in here that reflect hoping to solve these problems, you just walk through it. Even a word that indicate you will make those functions available in the future, you did not give us. How could let us be more trustful with your system and introduce more people to here?

    No system is perfect we agree, we do not think it is. Regarding fixing the stop loss, it is available in live mode.

    I really hope your system will be much much better, more and more people will join in here and make profits! So if what I have said makes you feel uncomfortable, I am sorry for that! Maybe in some places I have misunderstand you, but like all the newbies in here, we just want a more safe and suitable system for us to work with.

    Our goals are aligned to the client, we want them to make profit also.
     
    #60     Feb 21, 2007