Serious Traders Group

J_Smith · Jul 13, 2016

vanzandt said:
There are dozens of stock forums out there to chit chat about nothing. I joined ET to learn about trading futures and commodities from folks that know. This can be challenging when negativity reigns supreme.

What is all this "I don't share" stuff? Why? Do you really think anything shared here makes one lick of difference in the bigger picture? Do you really think if you tip your hand the S&P or DOW is gonna move?!!! Secret systems? WTF?!!! I am laughing my ass off. Come on... get a life. If you were that good, you would not be withering away time here. Am I not right?

Ya'll need to lighten up. Lets all make money together.

JS.... you go. Good on ya.

"Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." -F.B.
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Of course there are "secrets"!

Do you think the only ones who have expert knowledge are the algo traders!

The "key" is to be able to "seperate the wheat from the chaff".

J_S

J_Smith · Jul 13, 2016

Handle123 said:
"Lets all make money together."
That's cute to read, but in futures that is not possible, at all, only in stocks can all make together until that one day and huge trader or company going to force market other way.

Here are my facts I have learned the hard way, I could post all my charts for past year to you on day trading and it never be enough cause unless you understand chart reading better than you can thread a needle blindfolded thousand times, it not going to happen. Day trading was the hardest thing in the world for me to accomplish and it has helped me in so many other ways, in so many ways. Hell, it is very easy to find places to enter, but unless you can read charts, you be entering at wrong places. Learning long term better first, let's good rules sink into brain and have all night to think about trade whereas day trading seconds. Too many people think sitting and watching screen is fun, I never found it fun, nerves on edge, rather do anything else and going to soon. Set it and forget it as Ron Popeil would say.

I never wanted to learn about programming and about risk, well...I learned about it and in 8 more trading days, guess what, I won't be manually trading any more, going to have a new life. Prison term almost over, YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOO.

You want to learn how to long term trade commodities, one guy who worked at Commercial that I was applying for a job told me to think about a Bell Curve and that's what they did, so I did exactly that, stay out of the middle and go in opposite ends and hedge. I have posted ongoing trades over months on Cattle, Feeders and Hogs which are very tough markets to trade, nobody likes slow trading which is great, boring is money.

You want to learn an extremely boring way of trading, learn Spread trading, Bone one of the best.

No one going to give your money a second thought, best you do.
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How about one chart here, as I am curious - hourly chart if that suits?

J_S

J_Smith · Jul 13, 2016

qxr1011 said:
who is talking?

some people ask questions, some people posting links

some people commenting on them, or not...

that's it... i really talk to nobody here,

there is nothing to talk about, and no reason to do it, people may have an opinions and they may state them, but it should not go any further since there is nothing to proof, nothing to discuss and nothing (and nobody) to teach

if u think those serious traders have much to say, or so smart you are for the big surprise

as for listening for any guru, real or imagined, that not for me, those who think that gurus exist should give them their money with out much talking, those who trade themselves do not care about any guru
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Well, you opened your mouth 676 times so far

J

SkyChef · Jul 13, 2016

When he said Bell Curve, the middle & the edge, I think he knows certain thing. But he had to ask someone.

J_Smith · Jul 13, 2016

SkyChef said:
When he said Bell Curve, I think he knows certain thing. But he had to ask someone.
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Bell curve is not of price
J_S

J_Smith · Jul 13, 2016

I have to try and pick OG's brains some more - some good stuff after coming his way, however it happened?

It's a good few years since that little buzzer has gone off in my head!

Don't tell him, as he might clamp up.

J_S

qxr1011 · Jul 13, 2016

J_Smith said:
Well, you opened your mouth 676 times so far

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sure and i will open more

but do not confuse comments with conversation (what u call talking)

SkyChef · Jul 13, 2016

J_Smith said:
Bell curve is not of price
J_S
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Unless he & I think of the different thing to apply to different thing, it's price distribution having a look of a bell curve. Especially when he mentioned to stay away from the middle and go to the edge.

J_Smith · Jul 13, 2016

qxr1011 said:
sure and i will open more

but do not confuse comments with conversation (what u call talking)
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OG's post is "talking".

And the dim wits try to laugh at him - but I know he is laughing the loudest!

J_S

J_Smith · Jul 13, 2016

SkyChef said:
Unless he & I think of the different thing to apply to different thing, it's price distribution having a look of a bell curve. Especially when he mentioned to stay away from the middle and go to the edge.
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Well, only H3 can answer that.

To me, the extremes are identified by the curve as mentioned, but NOT, on price!

J_S