Serious question..

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VEGASDESERT, Oct 28, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I think the risk of spending is greater under an all democrat government. But other than that, I can't argue with anything you've said.
     
    #31     Oct 29, 2020
  2. VEGASDESERT

    VEGASDESERT

    This is the type of mental masturbation never trump republicans play.

    If you're a true conservative you should be kissing trumps feet at what he's
    managed to do to the supreme court. You should erect a trump statue on your
    lawn today.

    But instead they whine about how mean and gross he is.. fools.
     
    #32     Oct 29, 2020
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  3. Well, I don't think Trump is a conservative. I think he'll do whatever helps him in the short-term. That means lower taxes/higher spending/more debt. I don't see him constraining spending anyway. His whole career was about accumulating as much debt as possible and going to bankruptcy court lol. This was a guy who said we can just print more money later on: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/11/tru...lower-the-national-debt-woodward-reports.html

    We might disagree on this, but my gut tells me Biden is more concerned about the debt than Trump. I find both of their concerns pretty inadequate though to be honest so it's going to continue to be an issue going forward no matter who wins.
     
    #33     Oct 29, 2020
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    True conservatives don't kowtow to corporate cronyism, they let the free market decide, not corporate welfare and impunity through corruption.
     
    #34     Oct 29, 2020
  5. I'm not a conservative. I'm pro-choice, for gun control, pro-LGBT, for progressive taxation, for a housing first homeless policy, developing a healthcare policy that insures 100% of Americans with their pre-existing conditions, drug possession decriminalization, against the death penalty, concerned about climate change, would like us to scale back our military expenditures, a decent minimum wage you can live on working 40 hours/week, public early education/K-12, etc.

    However, I'm not for Antifa, anarchy/looting/rioting, tax rates over 60%, a complete government takeover of our healthcare system, free college, building rail lines in places where it'll still be faster to drive/fly, etc. The vision of Bernie Sanders/AOC scares the hell out of me. I don't think they respect the power of capitalism. It's easy to sit and type on your iPhone that the execs at Apple make too much money, it's a lot harder to make an iPhone. It's ridiculous to suggest that Amazon/Apple/etc are net negatives for society even if you think Bezos deserves to be taxed more (which I do).
     
    #35     Oct 29, 2020
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  6. VEGASDESERT

    VEGASDESERT


    My responce wasnt directed at you btw, just anti Trump conservatives
     
    #36     Oct 29, 2020
  7. userque

    userque

    My understanding is that Antifa is against fascism.

    Are you not against fascism?
    Are you concluding that Antifa automatically means criminal activity?
    Or can there simply be bad apples in Antifa;
    Like Trump say that there are bad apple cops, in an otherwise good police force?
    Or does that logic not go both ways?

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    #37     Oct 29, 2020
  8. smallfil

    smallfil

    Except, Democrats are the biggest liars around. Joe Biden has been in office 47 years. So how many lies has he concocted? President Donald Trump has been in office 4 years. Also, being arrogant and egotistical does not make one a liar. He exagerates a lot and you can say that is a lie but, more of a half-truth. I am sure those in Congress has done the same. So, between the two, Joe Biden is the bigger liar for the simple fact, he is in Congress all of 47 years.
     
    #38     Oct 29, 2020
  9. Wallet

    Wallet

    Love the “far right” emphasis. Lol, I laugh when I hear Liberals use this term as they are the poster-children of European fascism.

    Fascism is closer to socialism than capitalism, in it the state, government has authoritarian control. Trump, conservatives are capitalists, small government and are the exact opposite.
     
    #39     Oct 29, 2020
  10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)
    This is the description I'm familiar with and it's not one I think of positively. From what I see, too many people associating with Antifa are causing problems. I don't believe in their antagonistic/confrontational style. I don't really don't think they're helping with anything. Most Americans would probably say they're anti-fascism, but they wouldn't associate themselves with Antifa.
     
    #40     Oct 29, 2020
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