Sentinel Management Files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by ASusilovic, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. I think segregation of funds is more thorough than the financial solvency of one FCM. In the event of such failure, usually customer funds are also protected by larger networks.

    Anyway, this is an interesting story about undersegregation of FCMs and some reporting requirements. From a CFTC internal publication (see for more info: http://www.cftc.gov/foia/fedreg98/foi980827b.htm):

    1. Proposal
    FCMs occasionally have become undersegregated as a result of market
    movements which cause deficits in the accounts they carry on behalf of
    their customers. Generally, the undersegregated condition is discovered
    as a result of the segregation calculation, which under Commission
    rules is required to be completed by noon on the business day following
    the day of the market movements. Most FCMs are able to avoid any
    undersegregated condition which might have occurred on the same
    business day for which the segregation calculation is made, using
    proprietary funds or through collection of deficits by wire transfer
    arrangements made with customers. However, this is not always the case.
    During the market downturn on October 27, 1997, the Commission was made
    aware that a few FCMs experienced undersegregation to a degree that
    they were unable to make up the shortfall from their own internal
    proprietary funds. Infusions of external capital were required in those
    cases to correct the undersegregated conditions. The Commission is also
    aware that, in at least one case, an FCM was aware that it was
    undersegregated as of the close of business on October 27, due to
    losses in the accounts of a single customer. Further, this FCM was
    aware on October 27 that it was likely this customer would default in
    its obligations to the FCM and that, as a result, the FCM would be
    undersegregated. Further, the FCM also knew that it did not have
    sufficient proprietary funds within the firm to correct the
    undersegregated condition. As explained further below, the Commission
    was notified on or about the close of business October 28--at least one
    day after the FCM was well aware of the situation.
     
    #11     Aug 18, 2007
  2. #12     Aug 18, 2007
  3. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    some familiar future broker names.
     
    #13     Aug 18, 2007

  4. Sentinel, a Northbrook, Illinois-based firm that oversees $1.6 billion, stopped the withdrawals Aug. 14, causing brokers Farr Financial Inc. and Velocity Futures LP to sue.


    Reason #1 not to deal with small firms. imho.
     
    #14     Aug 18, 2007
  5. WinSum

    WinSum

    But we are not dealing with small firms. I deal directly with Penson which is a big firm for Futures clearing and custodian services but the fallout from Penson dealing to Sentinel ripples to outward.

    And the FCM has not issue any statement that they will make up for the shortage to their customers' account. So in the end, the FCM customers can get screwed even though they never dealt with or heard of Sentinel.
     
    #15     Aug 18, 2007
  6. Some serious ownage right here.
     
    #16     Aug 18, 2007
  7. chisel

    chisel

    Yes.
     
    #17     Aug 18, 2007
  8. $1.6 billion is a small firm? There are not a whole lot of firms bigger than this, and Refco shows that large firms are no guarantee of success.
     
    #18     Aug 18, 2007

  9. fyi I'm refering to Velocity and Farr:

    Farr, Velocity Other Sentinel clients are also unhappy.

    Farr Financial Inc., a futures broker based in San Jose, Calif., sued Sentinel earlier this week. Farr has $16 million to $18 million invested with Sentinel and if the firm doesn't return that cash, Farr said it may go out of business. A representative at Farr declined to comment on Friday.

    Velocity Futures LP, another futures broker that invested $18 million with Sentinel, filed a legal motion to intervene in the Farr suit. Sentinel manages its clients' money in large pools, rather than separate accounts, so any money that's returned to one customer leaves less for all the others, Velocity said.

    "Because Velocity has limited assets, any transaction that Sentinel enters into in order to generate funds to pay Farr will have a direct impact on Velocity," the company said in its motion. "The disposition of Farr's claim may, as a practical matter, impair or impede Velocity's ability to protect its interests."
     
    #19     Aug 18, 2007
  10. Yeah I am a bit concerned. I have some dough parked at Velocity. I thought segregated accounts would protect us from such nonsense? Am I getting concerned for nothing?
     
    #20     Aug 18, 2007