Senator McCain did not put country first when he selected his running mate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Thunderdog, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. Sooo... Thunderdog thinks Sarah Palin is not qualified to be VP but God does... interesting, I wonder who's right?
     
    #61     Sep 9, 2008
  2. Yannis

    Yannis

    IMAO: Conservative Concerns About Palin

    "I notice I've been getting a lot of comments on IMAO by conservatives who have reservations about John McCain's running mate, Governor Sarah Palin. I thought I might post some here and respond to them.

    I am a conservative who is voting for McCain, but I am now concerned that he will lose because of he nominated the inexperienced Palin. We need to write letters to him to urge him to pick someone else. Once again, I am a conservative.

    I hear your concerns, but all the polling shows McCain having a huge boost since picking Palin. Also, Palin does quite well experience wise when compared to Obama which only highlights his lack of accomplishments when compared to how much Palin had done in a relatively short time.

    I am a conservative who enjoys tax cuts and the shooting of the gun, but I can no longer support McCain now that he has taken the scandal ridden Palin as his running mate. The National Enquirer is going to expose her affair and sink her. This is of great concern to me since I am a conservative like you.

    While it's nice to hear from a tax-cutting, NRA-supporting conservative like myself, I think you may be blowing things out of proportion. Palin has had some minor issues which don't count as scandals, and the National Enquirer has no evidence of an affair and has based its findings on pure speculation (unlike when they exposed John Edwards). This is nothing any conservative should worry about.

    I am a conservative who likes NASCAR and racism and being a stoopid hillbilly. I love Palin because she's a religious extremist like me who wants to destroy science and teach creationism. She also hates condoms! She is greatest! Me conservative!

    Palin only ever said she would support talking about creationism if a student brought it up in class, and I don't even know where the hates condoms idea comes from. You must be getting your information from places like the Daily Kos, which is an odd place for a conservative to go. You should be careful about place that deal in false information, as you could end up with some crazy views if you believe it.

    I am a liberal who likes to pee on himself and loves Obama. I'm too stupid to notice he's never accomplished anything in his entire life and am going to vote for him because I'm an easily led cult follower. I like to eat my own poo. Once again, I am liberal and retarded.

    We don't get many comments from liberals, but I appreciate your honesty and candor.

    Hahahaha stupi d republicans! that Palin [expletive deleted] is going to sink you all! you right wing nut job are finally getting what's coming to you! [expletive deleted] you all, you [expletive deleted] religious nut jobs. your going to lose, you redneck [expletive deleted]. hahahahahahah!! By the way, I am a real conservative.

    I thought I told you to stay away from my blog, Sullivan."

    :) :) :)
     
    #62     Sep 9, 2008
  3. Really? God approves? And He told you this?
     
    #63     Sep 9, 2008
  4. Yannis,

    you're welcome.
    Your other post still begs the question:

    I really couldn't say as to the motives of the stranger... could you? (Yannis, please don't chicken out of answering again.)
     
    #64     Sep 9, 2008
  5. Yannis

    Yannis

    Look, I'm a simple man. In my example, in asking the question and answering it, they both had good intentions. But, maybe I don't understand what you are driving at...
     
    #65     Sep 9, 2008
  6. Yannis,

    waddya mean you're a simple man? Do simple men give simplistic answers?

    I knew little of the man giving directions, and nothing of the other one. It seems you know more a priori...
    How do you know they both had good intentions?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apriori
     
    #66     Sep 9, 2008
  7. Yannis

    Yannis

    Well, in my original example, the first person just wanted to find out where the next gas station was. He asked someone else who answered with the distance bit. The first guy followed the directions without feeling controlled or forced in any way.

    The point is that true religion is not forcing you to do anything, it just shows you the way. As a human, you have the innate ability to confirm that intuitively, or else do something different.

    Along these lines, in a religious or spiritual sense again, the major traditions agree that one must trust their guide, or else nothing is possible - if there's no trustworthy leadership, there's not going to be worthwhile followership either. There are some ways to do that and sincere seekers can study them. I learned to trust my parents - but some parents are not totally trustworthy, what can you do. In most religions, those problems too are addressed.
     
    #67     Sep 9, 2008
  8. Cesko

    Cesko

    Nice try. Here's what I know. Many key democrats have wholeheartledly endorsed Obama AFTER they got to know him and where he stands.

    Which should not be surprising. Because so called "Agent of change" has no single reforming bone in his body.
    Do you actually think endorsment from "key Democrats" is somehow good for the country?
     
    #68     Sep 9, 2008
  9. Yannis

    Yannis

    I wonder who Monica L is endorsing... :)
     
    #69     Sep 9, 2008
  10. Yannis,

    in you first response to me you said that you disagreed wholeheartedly with me on the basis of science, mathematical logic and religious views.

    Then you proceeded to say that the world and everything is bivalent - either true or false, good or evil etc.

    You asked me if I would think a stranger telling someone on a road that the gas station was nearby - if that person was trying to help, telling the truth, had other intentions etc...

    I said I had no way of knowing this, and asked you if you had any way of knowing this.

    Now you are saying that intuition would give me that answer,
    and that this is an "innate" skill or knowledge - i.e a priori or possessed at birth.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitionistic_logic
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitionism

    Dude, are you sure you know what you are talking about?
    Did you know that intuitionistic logic allows for contradictions?
    Not exactly the "right or wrong" bivalence you were touting...


    "...must trust your guide, or else nothing is possible..."
    sounds pretty much like authoritarian obedience demands to me - don't you agree, Yannis?

    :)
     
    #70     Sep 9, 2008