Senate to pass unemployment benefits up to 99 weeks

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Financial Saint, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. Turns out these bills are going to add another $130B to the debt in the next 1.5 years. So much for paygo...
     
    #21     Mar 10, 2010
  2. S2007S

    S2007S

    I know a few people who were unemployed and what they were telling me that makes no sense is that if you are on unemployment and get a job you have to file a new claim once your benefit year has ended. Now those who have been laid off since mid to late 2008 early 2009 are getting the best of this extension because they continue to collect as long as they are in the system showing that they haven't even worked one day since they started collecting unemployment. So anytime the government extends benefits those who have not found a job are the ones who just keep collecting. If you find a job for a few months and are let go you have to re apply, those who are being laid off in 2010 are only receiving the maximum 26 weeks as opposed to those who were laid off in 2008 that are still collecting for over 2 years.

    So let more free handouts begin again once more, seems so many are relying on these benefits that they continue to extend them.

    By the way if they are extending the unemployment benefits they will extend the $8000 tax credit for first time home buyers come April when that is "suppose" to end.
     
    #22     Mar 10, 2010
  3. Achilles, thank you for your response to my post.

    I agree with your assessment - especially the ugly part. Here is another reason why employment is not going to happen any time soon ….

    Mar 08, 2010 12:55pm EST Yahoo Tech Ticker interview with Richard Suttmeier
    Forget the unemployment rate, durable goods orders or the Baltic Freight Index. Veteran market watcher Richard Suttmeier says the FDIC quarterly banking profile is "the single most important leading indicator for the U.S. economy."
    Released about 55 days after the end of each quarter, the FDIC report offers a bird's eye view of lending activity in America, especially among smaller Main Street lenders and small businesses. "It's a balance sheet of our economy," says Suttmeier, chief market strategist at Niagara International Capital and ValueEngine.com.
    Based on the latest quarterly profile, for fourth-quarter 2009, the state of the banking system is "not as good as Wall Street is saying. Particularly when you get beyond the 'too big to fail' banks," Suttmeier tells Aaron in the accompanying clip.
    Bad Banks Can't Lend As was widely reported, the most recent report showed the number of "problem" banks rose 27% in 2009 to 702 -- the highest level since 1993.
    Less widely discussed is Suttmeier's concern that more than half of the nation's roughly 8,000 banks "can't lend anymore" because of rising levels of bad loans on their books. The problems are especially acute in construction & development and commercial real estate loans, he says, citing the FDIC quarterly report. Because so many of these loans are delinquent, banks don't have the capital coming in to lend out and thus are content to mostly sit on deposits, he explains.
    "We can't sustain positive GDP growth without the construction market turning around [and] banks getting rid of these bad loans so that they can lend again," Suttmeier says. "When you have light demand for loans and loans on the books deteriorating while the economy's going up -- something's not right."
     
    #23     Mar 10, 2010
  4. Welcome to the Welfair State!....IL, CA, FL, OH, MI, MA, and the list goes on and on and on and on....


    FUCKEN AMEN achilles28 !!!!!!
     
    #24     Mar 10, 2010
  5. It is amazing to me that many still live in the states that are doomed. However, there is a capital and Brain Drain going on. More and more producers, thinkers, and workers are moving into the Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio areas.

    More and more Companies are relocating to the region.

    Those who see the writting on the wall are getting the hell out.

    A good friend just open one of his Trading rooms in El Paso...not much going on but at least he will survive.

    The sheep still stay together huddled.....soon, no more sheep.

    I have become a Texan, it was a strange trasformation at first but after seeing the last two years unfold....Give me my Guns, GOLD, Ranchland, Rights, and FUCK OFF to the FED GOV..
     
    #25     Mar 10, 2010
  6. Congrats to these states who just hit higher unemployment this week:

    AL, NC, IL, FL, DC, CA, SC, RI, MI,

    don't you think its about time to get the Socialist idiots you call DemRats and Lame Ass Republicans who do nothing for you, outa office? Or are you gona sit there and watch the State House tax you even more.....????
     
    #26     Mar 10, 2010
  7. Passing unemployment benefits is perhaps more effective than tax cuts because unemployment benefits get spent more quickly (turning into economic activity). If I am mid-income, with a job, and receive a tax cut, I just may save that money. If the banks are not going to lend it out, then the stimulus becomes quite ineffective.

    Regardless, the problem here is too much debt is constraining economic activity. The easiest way to remove debt is to print money. If that doesn't result in more economic production, then you get inflation.

    An aggressive long term energy infrastructure buildout (err 500B on nuke plants) would be a proper way to invest, decreasing cost curves and increasing production all while we enact this debt destructing fiscal policy.
     
    #27     Mar 10, 2010
  8. you have spent way to many hours in the text book ...and I congrats you on your old school economic philosophy. However, just as the Black Shole Model was proven to be in-effective, so are those "idology's" you just posted.

    Name of the game has changed son. These are uncharted waters and I hate to be the one with bad news....what you say isn't so.

    Sit back, watch the show and you will learn.
     
    #28     Mar 10, 2010
  9. MattF

    MattF

    Same here. Had to have been I think now about 5-6 years ago this happened. Just managed to find something at the end of things. Would have loved it now back then. But to no avail. It was further away and better pay, yet that pay I think mostly got eaten in the extra commute.

    Most people aren't even going to look for a job on unemployment, or be very careful/casual about it. Usually you're capped at a maximum, so any work obtained either counts toward what you're collecting, or forces a re-file. If you're collecting near that cap already, who wants to work something for 5-15 hours a week (much less probably would get hired for such)? Otherwise you either lose the checks or they get reduced!

    In any event, I'm wondering if that small business didn't try to think outside the box for lines of credit. Angel investors, etc. to help raise funding and keep in operation. Sadly I doubt it. Most everyone thinks "banks." Banks are not the answer.
     
    #29     Mar 11, 2010