Senate On Verge Of Blocking Trump Emergency Declaration With Latest GOP Defection

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Feb 26, 2019.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are making a set of assumptions here that may or may not be true in 2020. And certainly the votes in purple North Carolina may not mirror how other strictly blue or red states in the country operate.
     
    #41     Feb 26, 2019
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    So are you but 2020 is looking a lot like 2008 and I think we see a repeat.
     
    #42     Feb 26, 2019
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes... and his lack of support for medicare expansion are great issues for a Democrat to run on.

    Running a "Stop Trump" campaign in North Carolina is a guarantee that you will lose. It simply greatly increases turnout of citizens who even slightly support Trump to be sure to vote against you.
     
    #43     Feb 26, 2019
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Stopping Trump is stopping his and republicans(like Tillis) attacks on health care.Tillis voted with Trump to end pre existing condition protections.


    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...ouse-losses-on-gops-health-care-stance-report

    February 13, 2019 - 03:48 PM EST

    McCarthy blames 2018 House losses on GOP's health care stance: report



    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) appeared to blame the loss of the Republican majority in the House last year on a push by the House Freedom Caucus to roll back protections for people with pre-existing conditions, according to The Washington Post.

    The Post, citing partial recordings obtained by the newspaper, reported McCarthy told donors at a private gathering that the GOP push to roll back the popular provisions had cost the seats of Republican representatives, including of several Freedom Caucus.

    The California Republican added that for 2020 he wanted Republican candidates who could “find a solution at the end of the day,” according to the Post.

    In his conversation with donors, McCarthy was discussing the GOP push in 2017 to draft a bill that would repeal the Affordable Care Act.

    To help get Freedom Caucus on board, the bill contained a provision that would have given states the right to waive protections for patients with pre-existing conditions.

    Republicans who voted for the bill, which then failed to clear the Senate, were repeatedly attacked by Democrats in the 2018 cycle as being against protections for those with pre-existing conditions.

    “That amendment put [the] preexisting condition campaign against us, and so even people who are running for the very first time got attacked on that. And that was the defining issue and the most important issue in the race,” McCarthy reportedly said, according to the Post.

    McCarthy's office did not immediately reply to a request for comment from The Hill.

    A spokesman for the Republican leader told the Post that McCarthy “has been clear-eyed on what went wrong last cycle and no one is more committed to doing everything necessary to win back the House and execute an agenda that offers every American limitless potential to get ahead.”

    Meanwhile, House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) told the Post McCarthy's reported comments were "very troublesome" and added: “I hoped the us-versus-them mentality of the past was something that indeed was in the past.”

    Meadows told The Hill he has not “had any follow-up conversations with Leader McCarthy” since the story broke.

    Conservative advocacy group FreedomWorks blasted McCarthy’s reported remarks, arguing the blame for the loss of the House should be placed on leadership and moderates.

    “Minority Leader McCarthy thinks that because the House Freedom Caucus took a principled stand to give states the flexibility to waive two of Obamacare’s costly mandates, they deserve the blame for the GOP’s midterm thumping,” the group said in a statement.

    “Newsflash: Republicans lost the House because of inept leadership by establishment folks like former Speaker Ryan and Leader McCarthy," it added.

    "Leader McCarthy should concentrate on stopping the socialist proposals coming down the pipe from House Democrats instead further alienating conservatives,” the group also said
     
    #44     Feb 26, 2019
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    If 2020 gets high democrat and minority turnout it won't matter.
     
    #45     Feb 26, 2019
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Part of a stop trump campaign is focusing on his health care record and other unpopular policies.Its not just saying stop Trump.
     
    #46     Feb 26, 2019
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As I stated if the Democrat desires to win the 2020 Senate race against Tillis they need to directly focus on particular issues of most concern to citizens in North Carolina. Healthcare is at the top currently. Outline the votes by Tillis in the Senate and his lack of support during his tenure in the state legislature for expanding Medicare.

    Trying to tie this into a "Stop Trump" campaign is an immediate fail in North Carolina. Stick with particular issues such as healthcare. The Democrats who won seats in our state in 2018 strictly stuck to issues and avoided "Stop Trump" All the Democrats who attempted to run on "Stop Trump" lost their elections in North Carolina in 2018.
     
    #47     Feb 26, 2019
  8. TJustice

    TJustice

    In Tony's 10,000 posts as Tony and his thousands of posts before that did Tony ever accept logic over DNC bot talking points?
     
    #48     Feb 26, 2019
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Stop Trump will do just fine in NC in 2020.Trump and Tillis are toast just as the republicans were in 08.
     
    #49     Feb 26, 2019
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Coming from the dumb ass birther that said Romeny would beat Obama,Obama wouldn't be on state ballots in 2012 and that 2012 would be Hillary Clinton vs Sarah Palin.
     
    #50     Feb 26, 2019