Senate Dems pull all-nighter on climate change

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Mar 11, 2014.

Is the US government serious about Climate change action?

  1. Yes.

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  2. No. It is all for show

    3 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. I don't know

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  4. I don't care

    6 vote(s)
    54.5%
  1. jem

    jem

    or as one of the local papers stated....


    “because these senators are calling for action in a chamber they control but without any specific legislation to offer up for a vote, or any timetable for action this year.”
     
    #11     Mar 11, 2014
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I would suggest that we turn off the heat in the building and let these clowns get a sense of how cool the temperature is outside.
     
    #12     Mar 11, 2014

  3. Once again you are confusing your intentional ignorance with what science actually knows. Nutjob.
     
    #13     Mar 11, 2014
  4. It's a shame, but the reason this is just a show is because the GOP are a bunch of science denying morons similar to what is seen with the deniers here. So nothing can happen.

    Once again, the problem with the US is the Republicans.
     
    #14     Mar 11, 2014
  5. wjk

    wjk

    Than explain why cap and trade never passed when the dems had a super majority just a few years back.
     
    #15     Mar 11, 2014
  6. fhl

    fhl

    The skeptics of this gigantic hoax use the scientific method to thoroughly debunk the notion of agw.

    The proponents use adjusted data that they attempt to hide from public view, threats of reprisal towards colleagues if they dissent, and base their summaries on votes of like minded, weak willed minions who are threatened with the loss of grants and jobs if they don't vote in the appropriate manner.
    And did i mention that they conspire to keep any dissenting science from not only being published in science journals, but also from being heard on broadcast media?

    It's time to call a spade a spade. The entire swindle is put forth by people who are completely lacking in integrity. Not an ounce.
     
    #16     Mar 11, 2014
  7. jem

    jem

    every few months another study comes out showing the sun and the tides have caused warming in the past.

    last year most nutter scientists first admitted climate sensitivity (sensitivity to co2) is lower than they thought.

    The models predicted warming because co2 rose dramatically, but temperature has not warmed in 17 years...

    recent studies say clouds and water vapor likely have more impact on temps than co2.

    and the data shows co2 trails the change in ocean temp very closely with a 1 year delay. (see below)

    And... there is no science showing man co2 causes warming.

    I have presented all this info to you many times.
    All you have ever presented was failed computer models and distorted perspective charts.







     
    #17     Mar 11, 2014
  8. jem

    jem

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    Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 11–12 months behind changes in global sea surface temperature and 9.5–10 months behind changes in global air surface temperature. Changes in atmospheric CO2 are not tracking changes in human emissions.

    Global and Planetary Change Volume 100, January 2013, Pages 51–69

    The phase relation between atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperature

    Ole Humlum a, b

    Kjell Stordahl c

    Jan-Erik Solheim d

    a) Department of Geosciences, University of Oslo, P.O. Box 1047 Blindern, N-0316 Oslo, Norway

    b) Department of Geology, University Centre in Svalbard (UNIS), P.O. Box 156, N-9171 Longyearbyen, Svalbard, Norway

    c) Telenor Norway, Finance, N-1331 Fornebu, Norway

    d) Department of Physics and Technology, University of Tromsø, N-9037 Tromsø, Norway

    http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.gloplacha.2012.08.008, How to Cite or Link Using DOI

    Abstract

    Using data series on atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperatures we investigate the phase relation (leads/lags) between these for the period January 1980 to December 2011. Ice cores show atmospheric CO2variations to lag behind atmospheric temperature changes on a century to millennium scale, but modern temperature is expected to lag changes in atmospheric CO2, as the atmospheric temperature increase since about 1975 generally is assumed to be caused by the modern increase in CO2. In our analysis we use eight well-known datasets: 1) globally averaged well-mixed marine boundary layer CO2 data, 2) HadCRUT3 surface air temperature data, 3) GISS surface air temperature data, 4) NCDC surface air temperature data, 5) HadSST2 sea surface data, 6) UAH lower troposphere temperature data series, 7) CDIAC data on release of anthropogene CO2, and 8) GWP data on volcanic eruptions. Annual cycles are present in all datasets except 7) and 8), and to remove the influence of these we analyze 12-month averaged data. We find a high degree of co-variation between all data series except 7) and 8), but with changes in CO2 always lagging changes in temperature. The maximum positive correlation between CO2 and temperature is found for CO2 lagging 11–12 months in relation to global sea surface temperature, 9.5–10 months to global surface air temperature, and about 9 months to global lower troposphere temperature. The correlation between changes in ocean temperatures and atmospheric CO2 is high, but do not explain all observed changes.

    Highlights

    ► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 11–12 months behind changes in global sea surface temperature. ► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 9.5–10 months behind changes in global air surface temperature. ► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 9 months behind changes in global lower troposphere temperature. ► Changes in ocean temperatures explain a substantial part of the observed changes in atmospheric CO2 since January 1980. ► Changes in atmospheric CO2 are not tracking changes in human emissions.
     
    #18     Mar 11, 2014
  9. Tom B

    Tom B

    #19     Mar 11, 2014
  10. jem

    jem

    that was worth the hour I spent here today. thanks...
     
    #20     Mar 11, 2014