Selling very deep OTM put SPX spreads

Discussion in 'Options' started by darkshogun, Mar 23, 2014.

  1. I'm just running through all the normal strategies like most beginning traders in order to see their flaws/benefits. The only benefit to this strategy would be the astronomically high odds, like a lottery, for the index moving down 100 to 150 points in 8 days (I know it happens) and landing right in the middle of a narrow short butterfly. That's why I asked about the VIX, so that these kind of positions can be closed early if the market crashes without losing too much money.
     
    #11     Mar 24, 2014
  2. TskTsk

    TskTsk

    Butterflies that far down for so little credit would be super sensitive to transaction costs..
     
    #12     Mar 24, 2014
  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    1. As good as SPY.
    2. Depends. Generally someone will bid if the structure is reasonable enough.
    3. Options are like side bets in a casino. When two people agree on a price, a new contract is born. Market makers are like bookies.
    4. Thousands of contracts can easily be traded in the SPX.
    5. I offered my opinion on this already.
    6. No.

     
    #13     Mar 24, 2014
  4. #14     Mar 24, 2014
  5. SPX is not for the beginner/retail...do ES options

    the biggest problem with the original thought is that you are risking a heck of a lot for a very little. yes you are "somewhat" protected with butterfly but just try and close one when you need to...GL

    There are no MAGIC strats...you....YOU.... have to pick either direction..or volatility then place your trade that is best designed for it. All the basic books out there have the strategies that are commonly used, and no one can give you the perfect one for YOU. It just takes time and lots of trades to figure it out.


    what NevedaBear said :)
     
    #15     Mar 24, 2014
  6. spd

    spd

    You are saying there is hardly any opportunity out there, and the opportunities that exist are meager at best. Risking money in a retail account on strategies that can only expect to return "bare minimums" seems silly to me.
     
    #16     Mar 24, 2014
  7. And every month or so, somebody comes up with this amazing idea of free money.

    Until the vix jumps to the roof and the broker eliminates your position at the worse possible moment, that is, when your account value reads 0.

    Go watch some titties in a bar, it's much more educational and way more fun.
     
    #17     Mar 24, 2014
  8. #18     Mar 24, 2014