Selling vertical call spread before ex-dividend date

Discussion in 'Options' started by Pekelo, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. sle

    sle

    Just trying to add some chlorine to the gene pool :)
     
    #71     May 22, 2017
  2. JackRab

    JackRab

    Chlorine... or do you mean some algae and bacteria to cloud it up a bit more... :D
     
    #72     May 22, 2017
  3. raf_bcn

    raf_bcn

    Hi
    Yes, but I want to make an observation.
    If the dividend is not known, how can the puts be based on the ex-dividend price?
    At most it's one approach. And it could be a play here. But no for ones who like a non risk strategy.
    http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/spy/dividend-history

    So, nobody knows if Spy announces the dividend some days before the ex dividend date.

    I think the price of puts could increase as we approach to the ex dividend date. We'll see.

    And you can be sure I won't exercise puts before ex-dividend date, mainly because I sold puts.
    For sure my calls will be early assigned. I susspect I am playing the same game as Sle.

    Regards
     
    #73     May 23, 2017
  4. JackRab

    JackRab

    The dividend is more or less known... dates are usually around the same time, and since SPY is derived from S&P500 the dividend reflects S&P500 dividends. Which taken all together don't change that much in a short period of time.

    So if the last 2 years the quarterly divs were 1 dollar... it will be around that this time, perhaps a bit higher.

    It's how things work, if you know that usually SPY pays out 1 dollar dividend mid June.. than anyone trading SPY options without accounting for that would be an idiot....

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    See... they've always had the ex-date between 14th and 20st... It's probably even in the docs, since SPY is an ETF, which I assume has less flexibility to shift things around...

    The date of announcement isn't interesting, it's about the ex-date. They can announce the total dividend the day before, or 2 months before... doesn't matter when the ex-date stays the same.
     
    #74     May 23, 2017
  5. sle

    sle

    No you are not :)
     
    #75     May 23, 2017
  6. DTB2

    DTB2

    I have not been able to monetize this via options. Too slow and stupid I guess.

    How I trade these is, wait for low of ex-div date to be broken by the equivalent of the dividend amount.

    Sell the underlying at that price and capture the move of at least the dividend amount.

    i.e. low on ex div= 50.00/div = .45/ sell at 49.55 looking for 49.10 in a day or 2
     
    #76     Jul 7, 2017