Selling short straddles is like printing free money convince me I'm wrong

Discussion in 'Options' started by Saltynuts, Feb 10, 2021.

  1. ironchef

    ironchef

    No margin needed no need to buy the underlying to cover no need to have cash secured for the put.
     
    #41     Feb 11, 2021
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  2. ironchef

    ironchef

    You are correct. Often our first reaction to something new or outlandish is to point out its shortcomings. What if we try to see how it might work?

    Lets think about how to protect the small probability of complete ruin. Turned out there is something call a butterfly that can protect the wings and Black Swan.

    Of course everybody knows that. But butterflies have their own shortcomings too otherwise why would someone keep selling me one if he keeps losing money? So we peel the onion and look further into it and that is how we get better.

    Best wishes.
     
    #42     Feb 11, 2021
  3. maxinger

    maxinger


    That is what the professional writers would say because most options would
    expire worthless.

    Years ago, I'd say
    Selling short straddles is like printing free money

    Now I'd say
    Selling short straddles is like printing your own death certificate.
     
    #43     Feb 12, 2021
  4. caroy

    caroy

    I think there is a definite risk of ruin and blowing up your account but if you have a strategy based on selling straddles with solid risk management - hedging with wings - reverse gamma scalping - managing your run away deltas and gamma risk it can probably be as viable as anything else. If a trader developed these parts of the plan it could work. I'd rather trade other styles. I would say it's more exciting than the watching paint dry selling IC's but I suppose my life should be more exciting than my trading or I'm just gambling.
     
    #44     Feb 12, 2021
  5. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

    Are you guys still not done circle jerking over this trolls shitpost??
    Selling naked gamma has never been like printing money. It's a bet against realized vol. If underlying moves less than IV you win. If it moves more you lose...and sometimes it moves a lot more and then you're broke.

    And by the way: You are talking about a position, not a strategy. A short straddle is a position.
    You could also argue how long SPY is like printing money...same thing

    /thread
     
    #45     Feb 12, 2021
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  6. taowave

    taowave

    Selling naked gamma is really only a bet against realized vol if you delta hedge..Most of these guys dont trade in that manner,especially the knuckleheads who "print money"..:)
     
    #46     Feb 12, 2021
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  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    What if OP knows exactly how and where to position the straddle?

    Maybe OP can comment on that?
     
    #47     Feb 12, 2021
  8. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

    How and where doesn't matter. The price of the straddle matters
     
    #48     Feb 12, 2021
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  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    o_O yes but where the stock ends matters too.

    Underlying @ $100, Strike @ $110. At expiration underlying @ $110. OP wins no matter the initial price of the straddle. o_O
     
    #49     Feb 12, 2021
  10. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

    May I?...

    It doesn't matter where the stock ends when you delta hedge. And a short straddle is 100% not a fire and forget trade
     
    #50     Feb 12, 2021