Selling Puts

Discussion in 'Options' started by pcgeek86, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. Hey, I've got a quickie. Does Interactive Brokers allow you to sell put options? (I believe they're called "long puts" too? Correct if wrong).

    Scottrade let you purchase them, but not sell the contract back into the market.

  2. So Scottrade lets you buy them but then you are stuck with and cannot sell it back to the marke???

    I always say if you are going to trade options, then use an options broker. Scotttrade, TD Ameritrade, Schwab, E-trade, etc.... know nothing about options and always screw up the margin and what you can and cannot do.
  3. Thanks coach, you're always quick to reply! :)

    And yes, if you review the Scottrade application for options trading (which I filled out and submitted when I used them), it clearly says that you cannot sell put options. Weird??!

    So I take it you can with IB?

    Thx again
  4. I don't know anything about Scottrade, but this can't be right.

    To make things clearer, think about the four transactions you can do with options:

    BUY to open
    SELL to open
    BUY to close
    SELL to close

    I believe Scottrade is trying to prevent you from doing a "SELL to open", but they should not stop you from doing a "SELL to close". That would be insane. It would also increase your (and their) risk. Imagine you buy 10 GOOG 400 calls for $10 ea, and they go in the money. Initially, you were in for $10,000, but since you could not close the position, you're now in for $400,000 in stock.
  5. Are you sure you are reading the right contract? ? Maybe you are reading the retirement plan, which might not allow any put transactions.
  6. Sounds like an IRA account limitation.
  7. people conflate the terms SELL and WRITE

    what they mean is that you can't WRITE them

    you most certainly can sell them to close a long position

    for example

    i buy one Put ABC strike 10.5 expiry Mar for .15
    i sell one Put ABC strike 10.5 expiry Mar for .25

    that is fine

    what thye are saying is they will not allow you to write these options. iow, you can buy premium (which has predefined risk) but you cannot sell it with that broker.

    some brokers will not allow the writing of options at all

    some will allow writing, only if its a covered position

    others allow naked writing
  8. Hey guys, I know it sounds weird. For clarification's sake, this isn't an IRA account. I saw a couple of you saying it might be an IRA limitation, although I honestly don't think that's the case. To me, it appears to be a brokerage-wide limitation.

    Attached is the PDF application for an options account. Take note of the text near the two checkboxes.

    Here is a quote from the options trading page on a standard "individual" account.

  9. @whitster: They do allow the writing of naked puts. See above post. I'm not familiar with the process in execution using their trading tools, but I am familiar with the concept.
  10. Hey, thanks for the clarification, and yes, they actually do present all four of those options in their trading tools, which is one reason I'm somewhat confused. However, the one point where I think you're just slightly off is that they are allowing a Sell To Open, but not a Buy To Close. It's possible that I'm thinking of this wrong, too, but wouldn't a Sell To Open be the equivalent of purchasing a put option?
    #10     Jan 10, 2007