Selling puts on SVXY

Discussion in 'Options' started by rocky_raccoon, May 30, 2013.

  1. I wish I had a crystall ball. I am trying to create a position that would benefit from more than one possible outcome. That's all. Buying put is a lottery ticket and I don't play lotteries.
     
    #71     Jun 21, 2013
  2. I would say.. stay small and grind out some mistakes via lessons..
     
    #72     Jun 21, 2013
  3. To trade svxy, using bull OTM puts spread is much better than selling naked puts. Svxy has a good possibility to drop to 0. I'm not kidding. This is not a just a theoretical thing.
     
    #73     Jun 22, 2013
  4. Can you come up with a realistic scenario under which SVXY drops to zero?
    What VIX futures would look like in that case and what would happen to ZIV, XIV, VXX, and VXZ?
     
    #74     Jun 22, 2013
  5. do you want someone to build a model for you?
     
    #75     Jun 22, 2013
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    If the institution that underwrites the SVXY goes bankrupt.

    I look forward to hearing how you top ticked puts after the SVXY has rallied 10 handles :).
     
    #76     Jun 22, 2013
  7. The institution is call ProShares. If they go under, SVXY won't be the only victim. Besides, it's ETF and its assets should be passed to the shareholders if the underwriter goe out of business.
    That is one scenario but it is not unique for SVXY and very unlikely. Most people who say that it may go down to zero think of some sort of a broad market crash circa 1987 and I'd like see their logic.

    BTW, if I take a position I will post a screen shot with a time stamp here :)
     
    #77     Jun 22, 2013
  8. If someone says that an instrument may go down to zero they should explain their thinking, shoudn't they?
     
    #78     Jun 22, 2013
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    This is all true. It's not an ETN, so bankruptcy risk is a lot lower. In any case, I wouldn't be worried about it going to zero. I would be worried about it not performing as advertised.
     
    #79     Jun 22, 2013
  10. Actually people can come in a poke things at you without any explained reasoning.. just as you can make odd claims hoping to fish for insight from the more knowledgeable.. Thats the nature of the beast..
     
    #80     Jun 22, 2013