Selling Premium - Strategy Never Discussed

Discussion in 'Options' started by robertSt, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    that’s what you would expect.

    Selling options has an edge but only a small one. The equilibrium is sellers trying to capture this edge and the buyers willing to pay it to protect greater returns from delta.
     
    #211     Sep 16, 2020
  2. iddy

    iddy

    @robertSt

    I understand that you do rolling instead of taking assignment and selling call on it.
    is it better to do the rolling than getting assigned and sell call?
    I might be missing some understanding on the rolling as I see it as losing originally received premium and then initiating a new sale to pick new premium, and if the stock happens to continue to go down , it will just be like kicking the bucket down the road. Until the stock finally recover
     
    #212     Sep 27, 2020
  3. robertSt

    robertSt

    iddy, if you accumulate premium each time....
     
    #213     Sep 27, 2020
  4. never2old

    never2old

    if it works dont change it, BTW well done.

    its an old thread, curious me asks, please pick & post just one trade before market opens for this coming week 28 Sept - 2 October, symbol, number contracts, money at risk - this way we can see the outcome?

    second part of the question is how do you pick what you pick, where do you go to/look for the so called high volatility stocks that have a high probability of success?

    last but not least - how many individual stocks per week are you selling puts on?
     
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    #214     Sep 27, 2020
  5. robertSt

    robertSt

    I think I've laid out the strategy about as well as I can. Some of it is subjective - I enjoy the art of it. I don't decide what I'm going to do ahead of time. I might have an idea, but what is the market doing? How much premium is available? It's constantly changing.

    One thing that might just be peculiar to me - I like to sell puts on things that are going down. I don't like to do it if it's at the top of a range or if it's broken through resistance to a new high. Some might say that puts the trend against me. Maybe so, but it's what I like. Sometimes it works, sometimes they keep falling.
     
    #215     Sep 27, 2020
  6. never2old

    never2old

    let me do a pre market 28 Sept - 2 Oct expiry for you & ask which strike you'd do?

    NKLA last at $19.45, in the past week it waffled $2

    in the last 30 days its dropped 50%

    for options expiring 2 October, had a trade been made close to EOD Friday

    the $18 put last paid $1.70 at 3:59PM Friday

    the $10 put last paid $0.19 at 3:59PM Friday

    which of the two trades would you have made & why, or would you go with somewhere in between?

    and, how many contracts would you have done?
     
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    #216     Sep 27, 2020
  7. robertSt

    robertSt

    NKLA lost nearly 50% in the last week - previous Friday close was 34.19. So it's exceptionally dangerous right now. I don't think I'd initiate a Friday trade on this one because of the possible gap on Monday. I would want to limit my exposure on this to one or two days. But if I was going to do it, I might try 10 contracts at the 12 strike, which is paying about 3% at .37.
     
    #217     Sep 27, 2020
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  8. Norris80

    Norris80

    @robertSt

    Hi there, Thks for your responses thus far.

    Any other parameters when selecting a stock? (market cap etc)
     
    #218     Sep 27, 2020
  9. robertSt

    robertSt

    You can get caught for long periods of time where the stock is underneath your strikes. So try to pick a company that won't go bankrupt.
     
    #219     Sep 28, 2020
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  10. Norris80

    Norris80

    @robertSt

    I get the impression you like to target stocks that have inflated vol due to a recent sell off rather than, lets say, earnings/events approaching?

    Thks
     
    #220     Sep 30, 2020