Selling Premium - Strategy Never Discussed

Discussion in 'Options' started by robertSt, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Pkay

    Pkay

    What attracted you to trading options? I'm asking as an options newbie. For me, the attraction is leverage and also the ability to profit when you don't get direction 100% right.
     
    #121     Sep 21, 2019
  2. TheBigShort

    TheBigShort

    It happens. Below are the 60day ivol spread and the 60day hvol spread between the 2.
    ivol.PNG
    hvol.PNG
     
    #122     Sep 21, 2019
  3. Jeff1228

    Jeff1228

    OK, it's clear, thank you. But, are there any other ways to hedge? That's my question actually.
     
    #123     Sep 21, 2019
  4. DTB2

    DTB2

    #124     Sep 21, 2019
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  5. oldmonk

    oldmonk

    I might be oversimplifying a bit here, but all these strategies are essentially variations of buy and hold SPX. Might as well just buy and hold with your preferred level of leverage rather than go through all the trouble.
     
    #125     Sep 22, 2019
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  6. DTB2

    DTB2

    I'm not so sure how simple it is to get a non compounded top line like this chart.:cool: Lotta people not getting 500% non compounded over that time.
    [​IMG]
     
    #126     Sep 22, 2019
  7. marameo

    marameo

    #127     Sep 22, 2019
  8. danjuma

    danjuma

    Hi robertSt. Couple of questions:

    (1) When do you adjust (i.e. roll down to a lower strike below the stock price), do you wait until end of the day (just in case the stock rallies) or adjust as soon as you notice the stock price has fallen below the put strike?
    (2) What do you do if you are assigned a stock?

    Many thanks
     
    #128     Oct 1, 2019
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  9. ZBZB

    ZBZB

    With a margin account you can be 100% long stock and sell options as an additional strategy and then invest the profits compounding the account balance or take income. In an IB account you can be 100% long stock and sell options on futures. Berkshire Hathaway is an insurance holding company that invests the float and profits into additional stock positions and private businesses.

    I don’t like being long stock on margin.
     
    #129     Oct 1, 2019
  10. gaussian

    gaussian

    It's precisely what it is. OP will end up in an all-or-nothing position just like playing martingale in the casinos. He's not factoring in the leveraging effect though, that if he's reasonably far out of the money and the option gets within 1 point of his position the IV has likely spiked way beyond the model he has (if he has any) and is likely bleeding out.

    Karen the SuperFraud's strategy relied on fraud. Then volatility striked and wiped out 100 million in paper. For reference she basically followed this exact strategy, fraudulently rolling losses to the next month on the HOPE that they'll improve next month. OP is not a fraud (most likely) but is making the same fundamental mistake.

    Selling premium in this way is just deferring a bad trade over and over. Sometimes it'll work, sometime's you'll be remortgaging your house. OP is far too confident.
     
    #130     Oct 1, 2019