Selling naked calls OTM & covering them just before ITM?

Discussion in 'Options' started by anon9812, Apr 21, 2023.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    you keep the premium on the option but can lose many times that on the stock. You approach the strike, buy the stock. Stock falls. Or you blow through your strike and don’t have time to hedge.

    it’s not riskless. Absent a real view, its as risky as just staying short the naked call or selling an atm call naked.

    I can think of one scenario where this will work but it’s not riskless either and the return is very low.
     
    #21     Apr 21, 2023
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  2. One can limit the risk to a desired value by using spread constructs, or spread-like constructs.
    Then naked shorting loses its dangers.
    Study for example this Bull Put Spread: https://optioncreator.com/stsskby
    In this example the Risk/Reward is 3.81/6.19

    Bull_Put_Spread.png
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2023
    #22     Apr 21, 2023
  3. taowave

    taowave

    Oh,now i get it..stock rips,your going to be synthetically short puts for goober after a massive run up..Back up the trucks,what could possibly go wrong??


     
    #23     Apr 21, 2023
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  4. destriero

    destriero

    I think the newb is covered ATM. He's not overwriting.
     
    #24     Apr 21, 2023
  5. taowave

    taowave

    I got the impression he was selling the 120% percent calls,stock rips 20 percent and he then decides to buy the full notional(short put) as opposed to delta hedging and being short the synthetic straddle.Either way,its a stroke of genius
     
    #25     Apr 21, 2023
  6. destriero

    destriero


    What do you think you gain by buying "just before" it goes ITM?
     
    #26     Apr 21, 2023
  7. destriero

    destriero

    You mean the arb? You buy spot one tick before it touches the magic-strike and it's hookers, pizza and beer! But you gotta buy it a tick before... one tick.

    Seriously, he's letting the options expire worthless so all is well.
     
    #27     Apr 21, 2023
  8. taowave

    taowave

    lol..peace of mind,security,or a serious spike in blood pressure (or worse) when the stock tanks



     
    #28     Apr 21, 2023
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  9. destriero

    destriero


    Don't you get it? We're not talking biotechs here. Just short the strike -> buy stock at the strike -> ring the register.
     
    #29     Apr 21, 2023
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  10. spy

    spy

    Lol
     
    #30     Apr 21, 2023