Selling naked calls OTM & covering them just before ITM?

Discussion in 'Options' started by anon9812, Apr 21, 2023.

  1. anon9812

    anon9812

    I’m not planning to buy back the calls, so I don’t see how their price change will affect me. If we trade near 4230 I’d buy the underlying to mitigate the unlimited downside of previously naked calls.
     
    #11     Apr 21, 2023
  2. spy

    spy

    Yeah, you might be right. Personally I think it's easier to just go back in time and buy tons of MSFT, AAPL and AMZN at their all time lows. My time machine is almost ready to go into production.
     
    #12     Apr 21, 2023
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  3. anon9812

    anon9812

    Why would you need a time machine lmao?

    If the price approaches the strike price you buy the underlying. What’s so impossible about that?
     
    #13     Apr 21, 2023
  4. spy

    spy

     
    #14     Apr 21, 2023
  5. anon9812

    anon9812

    Yeah I mentioned already that’s a risk right in the beginning. But just don’t trade some biotechs.
     
    #15     Apr 21, 2023
  6. destriero

    destriero


    lol are you for real?

    So you're marked at a 3X loss on a strike touch and you're going to repair it with spot.
     
    #16     Apr 21, 2023
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  7. destriero

    destriero


    lol "unlimited downside of previously naked calls"

    Typically we discuss the risk of loss on calls somewhat differently. Upside risk of naked calls. Downside risk of naked puts.
     
    #17     Apr 21, 2023
  8. destriero

    destriero

    Price the loss at a strike touch. Ostensibly the strike was chosen either via delta or you figured it was the smallest credit you were comfortable shorting.

    Price a strike touch on day1. What's the loss? Solve for the spot required to breakeven at the strike and then mitigate with volcorr and skew assumptions. Or price it out a week, whatever your expected hold is, then substitute with one tenor a week inside the one you're short (shorting 5/19 and what-if with 5/12). Quick and dirty pricing on a one week hold.

    Your upside calls will rally in vol to skew, absent vol-corr (OTM gains vol to moneyness and loses vol to mkt as it rallies). In this vol-regime skew will have more impact than vol-corr, especially if the strike trades ITM.
     
    #18     Apr 21, 2023
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  9. anon9812

    anon9812

    What loss are you taking about? I’m not going to buy them back, I’ll let them expire and keep the collected premium.
     
    #19     Apr 21, 2023
  10. destriero

    destriero


    Nice...
     
    #20     Apr 21, 2023
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