Selling delta 3-5 ES Puts with 40-57 days left

Discussion in 'Options' started by tradelosses, May 20, 2016.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    BTW, there is zero volume on those puts today and the open interest is 7 contracts. Mods close this thread please.
     
    #161     Jun 17, 2016

  2. given the strikes, they will be worthless long before 5 months , so I'l close them before then . Admittedly, it's probably not a great trade.

    I'm combining this with shorting SPY to keep the deltas neutral, so there is a pretty wide range of potential profit. The market could fall 5% and I'll come out ahead on both after a few months or so.

    I'm using https://www.getvolatility.com to try to find SPY strategies that have high sharpe ratios when held for a short duration (1 week) . It;s easy to get high sharpes when holding for months, but this not take into account path dependence
     
    #162     Jun 17, 2016
  3. those are some of mine
     
    #163     Jun 17, 2016
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    There was ZERO volume today. Which part of zero was yours.
     
    #164     Jun 17, 2016
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    BTW, if we were to trade down to 1900 and vol went to 60 those puts go to 45.00. Just sayin...
     
    #165     Jun 17, 2016
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  6. Dont worry Mav. Whoever sold them will manage them (wink); roll them out and reduce risk :)
     
    #166     Jun 17, 2016
  7. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru




    Holy shit
    .................. A paper trade? I'm outta here.




    :)
     
    #167     Jun 17, 2016
  8. according to the simulator using august results when the vix did get close to 60, the SPY 190, the contract would get as high as 25, which is still pretty bad

    A test with UVXY using similar august parameters also shows large losses


     
    #168     Jun 18, 2016
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Dude, don't use a retail platform to tell you where the put is. I have a spreadsheet with a good pricing model that is accurate. My prices are correct. I have never seen a retail platform give even a remotely accurate answer for simulated prices. The puts are going to 45 dude. And that is what a vol of 60. If we dropped to 1900 fast that vol could be a lot higher. So 45 might even be low balling it. Not to mention the spreads would start getting really wide.
     
    #169     Jun 18, 2016
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  10. So what you're saying is your spreadsheet that has a single guy looking at it to find potential issues or bugs is more accurate than retail software that has thousands of guys looking at it or live data feeds updating greeks in real time?
    Learning something new every day - you may want to sell your knowledge (or spreadsheet) to these retail platform companies - I'm sure they would save a lot of development $$$ and end up with happier customers
     
    #170     Jun 18, 2016