Selling Calls To Take Advantage of SPY Drop to 82 By 18-Sep

Discussion in 'Journals' started by shortie, May 31, 2009.

Chances SPY Will Drop To 82 By Mid September

  1. Virtually Impossible

    6 vote(s)
    8.0%
  2. Unlikely

    8 vote(s)
    10.7%
  3. Possible

    13 vote(s)
    17.3%
  4. Likely

    25 vote(s)
    33.3%
  5. Sure Thing

    16 vote(s)
    21.3%
  6. Yet Another Fool Ready To Part With His $$

    7 vote(s)
    9.3%
  1. we can assume that this is a 25K account that holds only spy positions.

    i don't have stops here i prefer to adjust the position in increments as the market moves around. i do watch the market constantly during RTH.

    yes, a nasty breakout could do some serious damage but we are getting really close to expr.
     
    #41     Jun 15, 2009
  2. ok, i understand now. a partial short spy position will match a move in calls in case of an upside.
     
    #42     Jun 15, 2009
  3. it seems that i could sell 12x calls instead of 300-400 SPY. the advantage is that i benefit from option decay. the disadvantages are: none?
     
    #43     Jun 15, 2009
  4. no more trades today. EOD update:
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    not sure if i will start building a new position with July options before June ones expire.
     
    #44     Jun 15, 2009
  5. Not taking profit after a sharp downmove today?
     
    #45     Jun 15, 2009
  6. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    Congrats on the trades shortie!:) Great job!
     
    #46     Jun 15, 2009
  7. Trade the underlying around a 1:1 position if you want to earn from decay. Say, 2:1 strangle/spot. Selling a 12x strangle and trading 600-shares of SPY. Obviously, it's another matter of you're short-gamma scalping.

    Short options make for sh*t hedges. You're doing well with this position, congrats.
     
    #47     Jun 15, 2009
  8. i locked in some gains by adding -4x puts as per earlier post. i will try to nurse the position into the expration.

     
    #48     Jun 15, 2009
  9. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    Hey shortie, and atticus. If you guys don't mind, take a look at asianprop's reply to my post in an ETF thread. He seems to make sense, and I agreed with him. I was watching shorties trade on the SPY thinking it made better sense to me until I read that reply. HELP! Lol! I'm a little lost now. Argh! Let me know what you think. Thanks!

    Wish I knew options like you guys do.

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2466753#post2466753
     
    #49     Jun 15, 2009
  10. atticus knows about options but i have only rudimentary understanding. from the post you mention i understand that what asiapro meant was that you can't "fix" an ETF by using options. if an ETF does not track oil well than the options on that ETF can't fix this type of a "problem". an option is just a derivative. you need a different ETF or a stock that tracks what you want (oil, sugar, etc) better.
     
    #50     Jun 15, 2009