Seeing People for Who They Really Are

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by expiated, Feb 21, 2022.

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    To help me remember the outward indicators of The Need for Affirmation types, I divided them into six groups:
    1. Impostor syndrome
    2. Competitive
    3. Less likely(s)
    4. Self-denial
    5. Self-control
    6. "Buying" favor with others
    I could guess what "impostor syndrome" means, but I went ahead and googled it and got this...

    Impostor syndrome is loosely defined as doubting your abilities and feeling like a fraud. It disproportionately affects high-achieving people, who find it difficult to accept their accomplishments. Many question whether they're deserving of accolades.

    Impostor syndrome:
    • These folks commonly feel it
    • And they stand out to compensate for it
    Competitive
    • Derive strength from professional success
    • More formally dressed or a notch above the rest of the crowd
    • Frequent competition participation, regardless of the type
    Less likely(s) / They are less likely to...
    • …complain to employees of restaurants
    • …send food back
    • …argue or request refunds
    Self-denial
    • They will eat food or drink beverages they don't like
    • The will be self-deprecating in order to hear someone tell them they are wrong
    Buying favor with others
    • Will carry medicines or things to give to people
    • Overtly pays compliments
    Self-control
    • Rigidness
    • More inclined o seek singular romantic partners
     
    #31     Jun 6, 2022
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    Chase calls the third primary human need "acceptance." However, it's difficult for me to cleanly separate this one from the second, given that I feel I see many people who struggle for approval in an effort to gain acceptance.

    Hughes goes on to state that the acceptance-needs people he speaks of are concerned with membership, groups, tribes, teams, and connections.

    I will therefore attempt to keep all three of thes straight in my own head by conceptualizing the first primary human need as Recognition, the second as Affirmation, and the third as Membership.

    (RAM)
     
    #32     Jun 9, 2022
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    To help me remember the outward indicators of The Need for Membership types, I divided them into four categories:
    1. Groups
    2. Pets
    3. Social
    4. Self-denial
    GROUPS
    • Strong sense of community
    • Prone to membership of all types
    • Biker gangs, fitness groups, fitness teams
    • Wears shirts that indicate membership, tribes
    PETS
    • More likely to have multiple pets
    • Smaller dogs as common pets
    SOCIAL
    • Returns all eyebrow flashes
    SELF-DENIAL
    • Less likely to have eccentric or unique identity formed and developed
    • Will change appearance to suit (please) the environment they are in
    • Easily swayed—ideal cult members
    • More likely to do favors for others
    • Will move out of the way as others approach on the street
    • Attracted to careers that help others, like cooking, healthcare, and therapy
     
    #33     Jun 10, 2022
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    SAASip??
    I jut found one sentence with all that. in one sentence; xxcept, perhaps pity]
    Baxter Black, cowboy poet= For the sake a a garment\ recycle that varmint. Solved the road kill problem.
     
    #34     Jun 13, 2022
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    THE SECONDARY NEEDS
    (And what they want to know)

    INTELLIGENCE
    Do others view me as smart or intelligent?

    PITY
    Do others realize and recognize how bad I've had it?

    STRENGTH/POWER
    Do others see me as powerful and strong?/Do other think I make a difference?
     
    #35     Jun 25, 2022
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    I will come back to The Secondary Needs at a later date. For now, I want to jump ahead once again to something Chase calls "The Decision Map." (I don't know what's on the first 135 pages of his book, but I appear to have skipped ahead to the real "meat and potatoes" of what he included within it pages.

    Whereas The Needs Map identifies what motivates people to do the things they do, The Decision Map directly predicts what people will do. So then, being familiar with The Decision Map can aide one's efforts to get compliance from others by pitching them using the appropriate decision style.

    The map consists of six factors, with each of the pillars bleeding into the two categories that are closest to it:
    1. Deviance
    2. Novelty
    3. Social
    4. Conformity
    5. Investment
    6. Necessity
    These are the questions each type of person asks about a potential behavior/action, respectively...
    1. Will this help me stand out or break cultural/social norms?
    2. Is this noticeably new, and will others see it?
    3. Will this make people around me show interest in or connect with me?
    4. Are others in my peer group doing this, and is it acceptable to them?
    5. Is this investment or behavior going to provide me with a valuable return?
    6. What specifically makes this necessary versus other options?
     
    #36     Jun 30, 2022
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    I just accidentally left the book on the train, so let me record what I can remember of what I was planning to write, and then get back to this topic/thread after I buy another copy...

    There are two types of Strength/Power people. At the high end, their need is to be good leaders. At the low end, they have a need make sure others remain aware of their superiority. (I will correct any errors here after I re-purchase the publication.)
    The Pity person will repeatedly talk about their victimization (i.e., complain of how they have been mistreated by others or cheated by fate); and the Intelligence individual will choose to talk about topics that illustrate how much they know and/or use big dictionary words to show how smart they are.
     
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    #37     Jul 1, 2022
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    I've finally gotten around to repurchasing a copy of the book. I can find all the resources I need for my training in rapid behavior profiling here...

    https://www.chasehughes.com/6mxbook
     
    #38     Feb 2, 2023
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    MASTERY

    Chase Hughes identifies four levels of mastery:
    1. Surgeon
    2. Nurse
    3. Paramedic
    4. Grey's Anatomy Guy
    When I was reading this, I couldn't help but think that there seem to be a whole lot of contributors to this forum who fit Level 1.

    This is the individual who has watched a few seasons of a medical drama and thinks s/he is at the surgeon level (Level 4).

    In the field of psychology, this phenomenon is known as the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It's a cognitive bias where people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability, and is related to illusory superiority, coming from people's inability to recognize their lack of skill.

    In short, people who have read a few articles or books, and have limited skill in a subject, are far more likely to "spout off at the mouth" as if they were experts.

    Of course, since the true identify of most of ET members is unknown, I have no way to tell if this is the case. Nevertheless, it IS my impression.
     
    #39     Feb 3, 2023
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    Having been convinced of the effectiveness of Chase Hughes’ book by chapters nine and ten, after repurchasing it, I went back and started reading the work from the very beginning this time.

    When reading the introduction, I observed similarities between what he did with his book and what I did with mine (yet to be published). So, for the fun of it, I took a number of his words and modified them to fit NPP, resulting in the paragraphs down below.

    Bear in mind however that I am not REALLY claiming ANY of these words are true. Rather, for the time being at least, I view them as more of a sort of script to be read by the main character (narrator) of a totally fictional Hollywood movie…



    There's one phrase you'll hear in every elite military training school:

    "Never find yourself in a fair fight."

    This is why relying on traditional trading methods is not good enough for anyone desiring an edge in the financial markets. Indeed, judging by the lack of successful retail traders, one would have to conclude that most of the available trading courses out there don't really work, and all those books with all those promising titles don't deliver either.

    In terms of my own firsthand experience, after years of scouring the Internet, I discovered that amidst an endless sea of experts, none had put together a system to buy and sell financial instruments in a way that revealed explicitly how to be profitable day after day...guaranteed!

    Numerical Price Prediction (NPP) is the missing piece I was searching for, even if I had to create it myself. I designed it to be the easiest, most clear-cut system in the world for showing anyone able to follow directions how to begin making money in the Forex market—from day one.

    That's why I was more than happy to start a prop firm where new hires (beginning traders) use the system to trade with MY money…
     
    #40     Feb 10, 2023