Sean Hannity endorses amnesty for illegal aliens

Discussion in 'Politics' started by walter4, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. BSAM

    BSAM

    Now Boner comes out this morning calling for a one year delay in fiscal cliff.
    We got a government that just doesn't work anymore.
    But then, we all knew that.
     
    #31     Nov 9, 2012
  2. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Taking it a step further. If the Republicans are willing to start abandoning core principles just to garner votes. We might as well just forget the party all together and join the liberal democrats.
     
    #32     Nov 9, 2012
  3. That's just it blacks in general don't have the skill and offer more liability to the employer hence they are less employable.

    See how that works?
     
    #33     Nov 9, 2012
  4. republicans are just playing games again. if they trick obama into delaying what needs to be done they will have time to set up a better plan of obstruction.



    So President Obama has to make a decision, almost immediately, about how to deal with continuing Republican obstruction. How far should he go in accommodating the G.O.P.’s demands?

    My answer is, not far at all. Mr. Obama should hang tough, declaring himself willing, if necessary, to hold his ground even at the cost of letting his opponents inflict damage on a still-shaky economy. And this is definitely no time to negotiate a “grand bargain” on the budget that snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.

    In saying this, I don’t mean to minimize the very real economic dangers posed by the so-called fiscal cliff that is looming at the end of this year if the two parties can’t reach a deal. Both the Bush-era tax cuts and the Obama administration’s payroll tax cut are set to expire, even as automatic spending cuts in defense and elsewhere kick in thanks to the deal struck after the 2011 confrontation over the debt ceiling. And the looming combination of tax increases and spending cuts looks easily large enough to push America back into recession.

    Nobody wants to see that happen. Yet it may happen all the same, and Mr. Obama has to be willing to let it happen if necessary.

    Why? Because Republicans are trying, for the third time since he took office, to use economic blackmail to achieve a goal they lack the votes to achieve through the normal legislative process. In particular, they want to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, even though the nation can’t afford to make those tax cuts permanent and the public believes that taxes on the rich should go up — and they’re threatening to block any deal on anything else unless they get their way. So they are, in effect, threatening to tank the economy unless their demands are met.

    Mr. Obama essentially surrendered in the face of similar tactics at the end of 2010, extending low taxes on the rich for two more years. He made significant concessions again in 2011, when Republicans threatened to create financial chaos by refusing to raise the debt ceiling. And the current potential crisis is the legacy of those past concessions.

    Well, this has to stop — unless we want hostage-taking, the threat of making the nation ungovernable, to become a standard part of our political process.

    So what should he do? Just say no, and go over the cliff if necessary.

    It’s worth pointing out that the fiscal cliff isn’t really a cliff. It’s not like the debt-ceiling confrontation, where terrible things might well have happened right away if the deadline had been missed. This time, nothing very bad will happen to the economy if agreement isn’t reached until a few weeks or even a few months into 2013. So there’s time to bargain.

    More important, however, is the point that a stalemate would hurt Republican backers, corporate donors in particular, every bit as much as it hurt the rest of the country. As the risk of severe economic damage grew, Republicans would face intense pressure to cut a deal after all.

    Meanwhile, the president is in a far stronger position than in previous confrontations. I don’t place much stock in talk of “mandates,” but Mr. Obama did win re-election with a populist campaign, so he can plausibly claim that Republicans are defying the will of the American people. And he just won his big election and is, therefore, far better placed than before to weather any political blowback from economic troubles — especially when it would be so obvious that these troubles were being deliberately inflicted by the G.O.P. in a last-ditch attempt to defend the privileges of the 1 percent.

    Most of all, standing up to hostage-taking is the right thing to do for the health of America’s political system.

    So stand your ground, Mr. President, and don’t give in to threats. No deal is better than a bad deal.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/09/o...-a-deal.html?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto
     
    #34     Nov 9, 2012
  5. Obama, kicked back toking on a blunt right about now saying, that would be the plan biootch's. And it's working.
     
    #35     Nov 9, 2012
  6. When is the last time you visited rural Alabama? This applies to whites too.
     
    #36     Nov 9, 2012
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    He is asking for what BUSINESS here and abroad is asking for. The deficit needs to come down gradually, without destroying sales. The debt is still serviceable, there is no crowding out.
     
    #37     Nov 9, 2012
  8. Or, the conservatives could just man up and do their own thing, see how that works out for them.:)
     
    #38     Nov 9, 2012
  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    When is the last time YOU did?
     
    #39     Nov 9, 2012
  10. One of the benefit of the second term is that he does not have to play these kind of games anymore.
     
    #40     Nov 9, 2012