Scientists...Got it wrong again!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, May 29, 2009.

  1. vhehn, does it not strike you as odd, that someone who would title themselves as "Bishop" would disregard a tenent of the faith that if removed , makes useless the Redeemer Himself ?

    I am well aquainted with this heretical gentleman.
     
    #61     May 31, 2009
  2. how can it make sense to you when we dont know who wrote most of the bible or what it initially said. the one thing we know for sure. jesus never wrote a word down. we only have copies of copies a generation later.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfSuninCn0&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfSuninCn0&feature=related
     
    #62     May 31, 2009
  3. i am guessing that to some people being intellectually honest has to override dogma. it should be meaningful to believers when former believers come to the conclusion that all is not as we have been told.
     
    #63     May 31, 2009
  4. I would offer two points in reply:

    1) If Mr. Spong was truly being "intellectually honest", why would he insist on keeping such a relic as "Bishop" associated with his name. Could it be to sell more books or have some sort of instant credibility with those not familiar with him.

    2) I assume the same would be true when former atheists and agnostics come to a faith in Christ.
     
    #64     May 31, 2009
  5. no. not if they come to faith. but if they ever come with evidence i want to hear about it. none ever has.
    there wouldnt be any need for blind faith if there was any evidence.
     
    #65     May 31, 2009
  6. We argued Bart Ehrman previously, I think last December, I will try to find my reply as it was lengthy.

    Mr. Ehrman is definitely a man of letters, no doubt about that.

    I would say, by analogy, that Mr. Ehrman is like some of the people on this trading site that find no use in "volume", whereas others, myself included, find immense advantage in looking at volume and its derivatives. Two people looking at the same data, drawing far different conclusions.
     
    #66     May 31, 2009
  7. pretty funny watching the theists go at each other's throats

    that's my god i know Him! NO, you don't my God is better :D
     
    #67     May 31, 2009
  8. probably about the same amount of sense is cosmologists and other scientists, who are basically quarreling over whether the universe is 10, 11 dimensions or more, and whether putting us in a multiverse (a possibly infinite number of simultaneous different universes) is the best explanation for everything they cannot understand... You cannot make this stuff up:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory
     
    #68     May 31, 2009
  9. Actually, the whole idea of string theory and multiverses existing in the same space-time is pretty cool - and the physicists seem to agree the underlying math is sound.
     
    #69     May 31, 2009
  10. Peil the religio-troll is surely aware, that trilobite fossils exhibit overwhelming carapace segmentation, and don't tend to have substantial tails, if any at all.

    Evidently, he is no paleontologist, biologist, or much else, and has never actually looked at a trilobite fossil.
     
    #70     May 31, 2009