WaveStrider used the phrase. I think I understand it and the context he uses ok , Perhaps you could re-read from about page 18 if you're interested enough
Fair enough. I haven't read more than a paragraph here or there. I'll catch up and get back to you. Looks like you're defending your position well (as you always do) but I'll search until I can dig up something to work with. Just don't terminate the thread before I can get a good shot at you. Always a pleasure. Hans
Some pretty good stuff here, Stu.. I like the vehicle but would like to kick the tires a bit before I buy it. I'll try to get through it all tonight. It's good.
Eight, I've got a lot of water around here. I've been trying to turn it into wine. It's been done before, so i know it's possible, but so far nothing i've tried has worked. Would you be so kind as to give me a few hints. (I prefer red over white, if that makes any difference.)
I saw your post and couldn't resist pointing out something that is fairly obvious yet seldom recognized: When Jesus popped up ought of the tomb he was in fact, from that point on, a Zombie.
OK - I've studied the thread. If you would take a minute to clarify the following points for me I would greatly appreciate it. Yes/no answers will suffice. 1) Is Existence is a stand-alone entity in the context of which all existing occurs? 2) Can Existence exist in the absence of all other existing - that is, in the absence of any entity that is not Existence per se? 3) Is Time a necessary element of Existence? Thanx. HH
I'd say the "tree in the forest" thing doesn't work. Existence exists irrespectively of how (human) consciousness thinks its own importance is an essential feature of it.
Hi Hansel, thanks very much for your comments . Glad you are enjoying the discussion. Yes and no answers then, but with a little explanation thrown in. 1) Is Existence is a stand-alone entity in the context of which all existing occurs? Yes. Existence exists 2) Can Existence exist in the absence of all other existing - that is, in the absence of any entity that is not Existence per se? Yes. Here lies the philosophical abstract concept which kinda totals any God/Creator concept clean out of the picture in my opinion. If all things potential and actual did not exist, including existence itself, what can exist? Nothing. Ergo: nothing exists. That you could say is an intuitive concept of a state or condition, even described as unknowable perhaps, which exists so that all things do not. God exists or not. God has potential to exist or not. But God in any form one way or another, or not, needs some existence itself to exist or not. 3) Is Time a necessary element of Existence? No. Existence exists for Time to exist in