Scalping in USA

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Dirk, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. Scalping is a trading style specializing in taking profits on small price changes, generally soon after a trade has been entered and has become profitable.
    It requires a trader to have a strict exit strategy because one large loss could eliminate the many small gains that the trader has worked to obtain.
    Having the right tools such as a live feed, a direct-access broker and the stamina to place many trades is required for this strategy to be successful.

    Scalping is based on an assumption that most futures contracts will complete the first stage of a movement
    (a contract will move in the desired direction for a brief time but where it goes from there is uncertain);
    some of the contracts will cease to advance and others will continue. A scalper intends to take as many small profits as possible,
    not allowing them to evaporate. Such an approach is the opposite of the "let your profits run" mindset,
    which attempts to optimize positive trading results by increasing the size of winning trades while letting others reverse.
    Scalping achieves results by increasing the number of winners and sacrificing the size of the wins.
    It's not uncommon for a trader of a longer time frame to achieve positive results by winning only half or even less of his or her trades -
    it's just that the wins are much bigger than the losses. A successful scalper, however,
    will have a much higher ratio of winning trades versus losing ones while keeping profits roughly equal or slightly bigger than losses.

    The main premises of scalping are:

    Lessened exposure limits risk - A brief exposure to the market diminishes the probability of running into an adverse event.
    Smaller moves are easier to obtain - A bigger imbalance of supply and demand is needed to warrant bigger price changes.
    It is easier for a contract to make a 5 tick move than it is to make a 50 tick move.
    Smaller moves are more frequent than larger ones - Even during relatively quiet markets there are many small movements that a scalper can exploit.
    Scalping can be adopted as a primary or supplementary style of trading.

    Primary Style:

    A pure scalper will make a number of trades a day, between five and 10 to hundreds.
    A scalper will mostly utilize one-minute charts since the time frame is small and he or she needs to see the setups
    as they shape up as close to real time as possible. Automatic instant execution of orders is crucial to a scalper,
    so a direct-access broker is the favored weapon of choice.

    scalping can be seen as a kind of method of risk management.
    Basically any trade can be turned into a scalp by taking a profit near the 1:1 risk/reward ratio.
    This means that the size of profit taken equals the size of a stop dictated by the setup. If, for instance,
    a trader enters his position for a scalp trade at 800 with an initial stop at 795,
    then the risk is 5 ticks; this means a 1:1 risk/reward ratio will be reached at 805.

    Scalp trades can be executed on both long and short sides. They can be done on breakouts or in range-bound trading.
    Many traditional chart formations, such as M and W formations can be used for scalping.
    The same can be said about technical indicators if a trader bases decisions on them.

    A trader enters a position on any setup or signal from his system,
    and closes the position as soon as the first exit signal is generated near the 1:1 risk/reward ratio

    Conclusion:

    Scalping can be very profitable for traders who decide to use it as a primary strategy or even those who use it to supplement other types of trading.
    Adhering to the strict exit strategy is the key to making small profits compound into large gains.
    The brief amount of market exposure and the frequency of small moves are key attributes that are the reasons why this strategy is popular among many types of traders.
     
    #41     Dec 21, 2007
  2. Remind me again on the trading hours of the DAX? Eastern Time Zone

    Thanks
     
    #42     Dec 21, 2007
  3. Maxsit

    Maxsit

    You can see it at: http://www.eurexchange.com
     
    #43     Dec 21, 2007
  4. ssss

    ssss

    Then why do people still pay millions of dollars buying a seat, screaming and pushing one another each day?
    Wouldn't they feel more comfortale in a home office drinking a coffee and pushing buy/sell buttons?

    1. Yes ,to buy place on exchange win advantage in speed and
    commissions. clear best way buy place cheap and sell high ...

    Martin (Buzzy) Schwartz result was possible under conditions
    that he have palce on exchange .He performed in old price's
    from 70000$ until 2.1 mln $ (modern PPE relation 2.5-3 multiple)
    in 3 years .

    2. 20-40 operations per day that is high intensity intraday trading .

    Scalping is some 500-1000 operations per day. See result
    of leaders by contest in Russia .1 and 3 performed 500-1000
    operations each day in quartal .

    Was made by 3-d prize winner from 1800$ 19000 $ in quartal
    and payed 9600$ commissions

    It is possbile only through specific russian conditions. On CME
    that can not be performed without place on exchange .

    3. All recommendations about scalping in article posted
    above ,suspect to be not another as promoutional junk .
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    Was stated above

    Terry Hesticles
    Registered: Dec 2007
    Posts: 4

    ... If, for instance,
    a trader enters his position for a scalp trade at 800 with an initial stop at 795,
    then the risk is 5 ticks; this means a 1:1 risk/reward ratio will be reached at 805.
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    800 it is possible er . Russell2000 E-mini .in this case
    it would 5 point(!) not five tick...

    By intraday liquidation margin 500 $ that would 500$
    profit or loss on 1000$ initial margin .It is not scalping





    Best wish ....
     
    #44     Dec 21, 2007
  5. You do understand the concept of an example right?
     
    #45     Dec 21, 2007
  6. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    It opens at 2 am EST. But first hour usually has not much action since cash opens 1 hour later. I start trading it at 3:01 or 3:02am.
     
    #46     Dec 21, 2007
  7. ssss

    ssss

    ...You do understand the concept of an example right?


    ? - This is promoutional junk .


    author is prized by USA contest www.marketzar.com
    1 place with gold ,second with gold and ert (in Germany alsov
    ,but this is another story )


    P.S. For russian reader's - not forget Gentlemen ,elittetrader
    essentialy full with all kind of propaganda (religios,sekten,promoutional junk &)

    to be carefully , Caveat emptor ! (Let is buyer beware ...)
     
    #47     Dec 21, 2007
  8. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Hi Ssss,

    Why do you constantly use Martin Shwartz as example in your posts?

    Yes, he did start as a floor member of Amex in 1979, however by mid 80s, he was trading S&P futures from New York over the phone, and his style was not scalping.

    redduke
     
    #48     Dec 21, 2007
  9. ssss

    ssss

    redduke


    Please read article on elitetrader about Martin Schwartz.

    After multiple years trading loss ,which was financed with he's work as analytic ,Martin Schwartz buyed place on exchange for
    for most (some 50%) of the money which he have had


    Schwartz,www.markdcook.com ,mark minervini -
    http://minerviniprivateaccess.com/ ,J.Simonis
    from rentec ,Ken Uston & co

    from author point of view relevant person's
     
    #49     Dec 21, 2007
  10. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Hi Terry Hesticles,

    While your post contains a lot of info, there is really not much that can be ralated to scalping aside from risk/reward and fequency of trades. It sounds like some educational material. Trust me in real live scalpers do not use 1 min charts, it is ancient history for them. Scalping these days heavily ralies on immediate price action, market depth games and times & sales. Also, bigger plyers like Paul Rotter (flipper) play all kind of games to trick peoples into trades via fake # of large bids and offers.

    By the way scalping was originated in pits where at the same time the same instrument could have been traded at different prices. Also front running helped to make lots of ticks.

    Regards,
    redduke
     
    #50     Dec 21, 2007